The Risk Of Racist Accustaions.

[Theland]

A genuine question. I am not a racist, but feel the necessity to display my credentials.
My Sudanese daughter in law is now three days overdue with my ninth grandchild.
So to the heart of the question.
Western European culture has given the world football, cricket, rugby, great classical music, great art, plays, world dominating pop culture, fashion, democracy, inventions, scientific advancement etc etc etc to name but a tiny few.

So what has Africa contributed to human advancement?

[Theland]

Atheist - I have worked paying my taxes, been a good me ever of my community. Given to charity, brought up six children, without benefits, and given them values that they live by.
Is that OK?

[Theland]

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[Calicogirl]

...and African people are incapable of doing that? Is that honestly what you think?

[Atheist]

Theland. Europeans invaded Africa and stole their land. Before that they had exploited Africa by buying slaves from African slave traders. We Europeans never had that suffering. You are not very well educated.

[Theland]

Both of you - I don't much care what Africans are capable of, just let them do it in Africa.

Atheist - What point are you making? Are you feeling so guilty about our history that you need to flog yourself?

[Togo]

//We Europeans never had that suffering. You are not very well educated.//

You might want to check that out. Probably the most foolish statement ever made on the Bank.

[Atheist]

Theland, I asked what you had contributed to human advancement, not what you had contributed to our government's kitty. I doubt if you are capable of contributing anything intelligent to human advancement, based on your contributions here. I have read your posts and replies, and I can't help concluding that you are not someone who listens or thinks. Sorry, mate, but it's better to be honest than to pretend to a respect that I don't feel.

[Atheist]

Togo, what suffering have we English endured that comes anywhere near the suffering of Africans or Americans or Australians (the list goes on) when confronted by foreign conquerors?

[spathiphyllum]

theland has contributed, like everyone has. Butterfly affect. there is a lot we can take from theland, take what we need and be grateful. No need to be mean or dismissive

[sherrardk]

Theland, you really are deeply unpleasant - and could you stop banging on about how many children you have? It’s getting tedious.

[fender62]

[Deskdiary]

^^^The Romans and the Scandinavians had a pretty good go. Or is that considered too old?

If it is considered too old, what is the cut-off point where we need to stop beating ourselves up?

[Rockrose]

//don't much care what Africans are capable of, just let them do it in Africa. //
Have you said this to your DIL ?

[Deskdiary]

Harumph - thread is speedy quick. My ^^^ was to Atheist's post of 8.28pm.

[Theland]

My DIL and her parents and sister are as British as me.
We all try to live good lives. Anything wrong?
How about you?

[Theland]

Thanks Spath.

[Rockrose]

If that was true Theland you wouldn’t feel the need to put Sudanese every time you mention her!!

[Calicogirl]

... and the children of the Africans coming here will be British too, what's your point Theland?

[Togo]

Ask the Cornish and Devonians about the Arab slave traders. That word is there again. Ignorant post once again @ 20:17. Is that the result of "modern" education?

[douglas9401]

At the risk of inflaming what is a very reasonable discussion, how can your daughter in law be as British as you if she's Sudanese?