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AZardoz | 10:06 Tue 07th Aug 2018 | Society & Culture
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What the heck are you people arguing about?
// Sajid Javid, a Home Secretary who swore his oath of political office on the Koran. //
Seriously !? And this was OK ? There's nothing more to discuss.
Your country is seriously screwed ... but Canada is trying very hard to catch up.

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That's absolutely correct. All MP's must swear either an oath of allegiance or an affirmation of allegiance. This is done at the beginning of the Parliamentary session following the general election. The text for an oath is:The current standard oath of allegiance is set out from the Promissory Oaths Act 1868 in the following form: I, (Insert full name), do...
10:51 Tue 07th Aug 2018
Naomi, if you are going to give an opinion then you should make it clear that it is your opinion and not fact.
When I go to court as a witness, I affirm rather than swear on the Bible. This is because I am a Christian and the Bible is clear on this point, in the Epistle of St James which states: “Swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath.”

George Fox, the founding Quaker, took this seriously and landed in prison several times, nearly costing him his life. He wrote a fine passage in his journals describing his trial in 1663, in which he refused to take his hat off, rebuked the judge for calling him “sirrah” and, when asked if he would take an oath, replied: “Christ, who is the great prophet, who is the King of kings, who is the Saviour of the world, and the great judge of the whole world, he saith I must not swear; now, whether must I obey, Christ or thee?”

Today, when objectors to oaths may affirm, the main dispute is between believers who want the oath retained and secularists who want it abolished, which is quite a paradox really!
Rockrose
/// in my opinion I'm a size zero - doesn't make it so though. ///

I knew that you lost a lot of weight, but didn't know that it was that much.
danny, I usually do, danny, for the very reason that this thread is the sort of nonsense that the odd omission produces. This time I failed. So shoot me.
Naomi, can't do that, it is not a capital offence :-)
anotheroldgit

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danny, it's not? You surprise me. ;o)
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Thank you for clearing that up. I wasn't aware that there were so many options for taking an oath.
AZardoz, you say in your OP " ... but Canada is trying very hard to catch up." I'm assuming that you are a Canadian, so what do you mean by that statement?
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Too many cases to mention. Just a few.

Sharia law:
https://torontosun.com/2017/09/25/stop-normalizing-sharia-law-in-canada/wcm/e9de51b5-8aef-4a11-a1eb-79a87b570930

Police uniforms:
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/04/04/proposed-police-uniform-changes-set-off-alarm-bells-in-quebec.html

Religion in public schools:
https://aviraweb.wordpress.com/2017/02/10/keep-religion-out-of-canadian-schools/
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/25/world/canada/a-battle-over-prayer-in-schools-tests-canadas-multiculturalism.html
"While the debate over separation of religion and state still goes, Canadian schools have, over time, removed almost all references to Christian prayers and symbols, a remarkable achievement since Canada has remained predominantly Christian. Yet, during the same time, accommodation for other minority religions has gained traction in the school system, a well-intentioned, but convoluted policy that can be disastrous for the multicultural fabric of Canadian society."
OK, I see what you mean. I think a lot of that is due to the actions of that limp-wristed, selfie loving, diversity-embracing, Mr. Dressup Prime Minister of yours, Justine Trudy.
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It started long before JT but he's a rabid devotee, as you probably saw when the whole family dressed up.

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