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Who do you trust - That Will Never Be Betrayed?

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Elderman | 09:19 Wed 09th Nov 2011 | Society & Culture
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But people Trust thyself only, and another shall not betray thee.” Although this cynical observation was made 250 years ago, many today express similar sentiments. A spirit of mistrust permeates society.
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because it's true to human nature, there are very very few people in whom you can truely trust because, for so long, our own personal moral compass has had a big religious magnet stuck to the side of it so it's forgotten how to manage on it's own. For centuries peopel decided what was right and wrong because they were told as opposed to deciding for themselves, left now to our own free wills only the morally strong, those who gain pleasure from pleasing their loved ones, are trustworthy.
Elderman, you are surely not suggesting people should trust your God? Why? With all the pain and suffering in this world, and the billions of unanswered prayers offered, you can hardly claim him to be worthy of anyone's trust.
I trust friends and the intrinsic kindness and decency of most humans... if they prove untrustworthy it is my failure of judgement...
Here we go again!!

Im with Naomi on this, God hasnt exactly got a great track record, he is accountable for more death and misery than any human alive or dead!!
No way that I would trust myself with my secrets.
I guess Elderman wants to see us go back to where preists trust that their superiors won't betray their secret and will protect them from accusations that they molested the choir boys.
Thought I could trust my best mate until I found out he tried to bed my ex when I was in in hospital for 3wks. ( I was still married to her). Don't know what I'd do if we met face to face.
Don't trust anybody now after this incedent :-(
Makes it rather difficult for me to trust anyone who bases their beliefs on faith . . . and who believe the rightful destiny of those who don't is hell.
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Many who plan to remarry, insist that before the wedding his fiancée sign an agreement outlining alimony benefits in the event of a future divorce. Marriage is no longer equated with trust.
And, national leaders, even entire nations, frequently profess to put their trust in God. In fact, many United States bills and coins for the last hundred years have borne the motto: “IN GOD WE TRUST.” But history indicates that rather than trust in God, mankind in general has put its faith in economic, military, and political might.
Can a people that really does put trust in God be found today? Is it worth their while to do so? How does it benefit them?

We have every reason to admit that animals, like human beings, can fear, hate, feel affection and disgust and homesickness, love their native environment, experience anger and terror, possess the social and imitative instincts and feel pleasure, sorrow, joy and depression.”
But these emotions are generally only temporary and are not based on reason. For instance, a dog may stick with and fight for a master that treats him very harshly and that uses the dog to accomplish cruel and wicked purposes.
Only humans have a conception of the future, or plan for the future. They can look forward to time indefinite, to infinity. The Bible says of God’s gift to man: “Even time indefinite he has put in their heart.” (Eccl. 3:11) Animals, on the other hand, live only for the immediate moment or the immediate satisfaction of their desires. Man builds for the future. He uses the information and discoveries of history to plan his future, and most men would like to continue to pursue their purposes to time indefinite. Men “dread” the end of their lives. They know how life turns out—first, the aging process toward death, then the leaving of loved ones, being unable to carry out their projected works, the ceasing of all enjoyment and being soon forgotten. But animals do not have that “dread,” just as the Bible says (Rom. 6:23)
What they should have stamped on their currency is, "IN GOLD WE TRUST". As it stands, your money is worth no more than a blank check on an insolvent account. Ergo, trust in 'God' is proving to be a bad investment . . . all around.
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True, In a similar way, to have one’s trust betrayed is painful. Repeated betrayal of trust might make us think carefully about our choice of associations. Yet, to withdraw from people entirely so as to avoid the risk of being let down is not the solution. Why not? Because being mistrustful of others robs us of our own happiness. To lead a contented life, we need relationships based on mutual trust.
Does God trust you, Elderman?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSXgU_yqXK0
"Man is a marvellous curiosity...he thinks he is the Creator's pet...he even believes the Creator loves him; has passion for him; sits up nights to admire him; yes and watch over him and keep him out of trouble. He prays to him and thinks he listens. Isn't it a quaint idea."

Mark Twain.
David Ike.....
lol Meg :)
//Repeated betrayal of trust might make us think carefully about our choice of associations. //

God's repeated betrayal of trust should make you think carefully about your choice of associations. How many prayers go unanswered? A blatant betrayal of the trust people put in your God.
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Naomi:
Exactly. Depends on which God you pray to. You don't pray to my God as you don't know him. How can you expect God to answer prayers to people with your attitude anyway.
//Naomi:
Exactly. Depends on which God you pray to. You don't pray to my God as you don't know him. How can you expect God to answer prayers to people with your attitude anyway.//

Elderman, If you think your attitude in anyway stands as a ringing endorsement for your favoured delusion, there's one more to add to your collection.

And if you think that Naomi should feel threatened in any way by your disparaging assessment of her attitude . . . there's yet another delusion to top it all off.

While I do not presume to speak on Naomi's behalf, I suspect it was people like you who presume to speak so dubiously on their own God's behalf that prompted Naomi to take an in depth detailed look at her own only to realise her trust and values had been egregiously betrayed by virtue of a presumption of innocence.

Personally, I don't regard another's trust as an expectation or a duty. A legitimate trust is based on a mutual understanding of and respect for the qualities of honesty, integrity and responsibility that justify it, apart form which one should fully expect to be betrayed.

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