Species Extinction

[birdie1971]

It's often been claimed that species are becoming extinct at an unprecedented rate. But the question never asked is – which ones specifically?

Name them.


In brief – where are the bodies?

Which ones were here today but are no longer with us? If species are dropping off this mortal coil at such an unprecedented rate, shouldn't we know what species they are?

[Togo]

What you mean Jim is that you refuse, as you do in most cases, to even listen or read another point of view in case it shatters you stubborn, ill founded, self belief. Foot stamping and petulance does not win the day Jim. Be British not bratish. What we have here is a failure to communicate.

[jim360]

No, what I mean is that your sources commit basic errors that it takes half a second to refute, and it's up to you to find better, more trustworthy and more rigorously-tested sources in future.

[jim360]

For example, on principia-scientific, I found articles claiming that the nuclear forces don't exist, that Black holes are fictional, vaccines cause autism, and on and on. It's a repository of pseudoscientific conspiracy theory BS. If you consider that a credible source then I question your judgement.

[Togo]

But, But Jim. You have not told us in your own "inimitable manner" which bits of the ideas, from either of the two links provided, are erroneous. All you insist on posting is that the sources have been "wrong" or contentious on other subjects without giving us the benefit of your analytical interpretation of what they are saying about the green lobby scam. Is it that you are afraid to contemplate that you were conned into a view point and are now too entrenched, even smitten, with it to admit it even to yourself?

[jim360]

// Is it that you are afraid to contemplate that you were conned into a view point and are now too entrenched, even smitten, with it to admit it even to yourself?//

No, it's not. I can guarantee you that I've already had the experience of what I say and do being shown to be wrong by other scientists, and it's not pleasant, believe me. But it was a useful lesson all the same.

I've already debunked birdie's erroneous data on temperatures and solar intensity; I've provided a well-referenced source discussing the history of Climate Science and the understanding of the role, and I've invited you to read that, and the sources therein. As far as I'm concerned, that debunks your case to my satisfaction. It *does* matter that one of the websites you cited is filled with garbage -- it's a good rule of thumb that people who are incapable of judging good science in one area are equally incapable of judging it anywhere else. And, just to be clear, that source isn't "'wrong' or contentious", it's just plain wrong. If you can't even appreciate that then what hope have I of persuading you of any of the other myriad mistakes therein?

[Peter Pedant]

Jim
AB cant take it from someone who has more than O levels
the group psyche goes into meltdown

I mean Jim, yeah you're right
and I kn ow for a fact that you have more than maff o level

[Peter Pedant]

Jim I dont know why you rose to the challenge of
repudiating - "they cant be extinct - there are no bodies...."

do do - moa - any australopithecine bar H Sapiens
any predecessor to equus, ( eohippus upwards )

[Arksided]

I've no t read the whole thread, but simply thought it was about Bees.

Having said that 'If I lose you its just me and the damn tourists'