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Listener 4419 Common Acid Test By Stan

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tilbee | 00:02 Sat 08th Oct 2016 | Crosswords
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Well certainly not as hard as last week, but still was more challenging than I anticipated.
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At first glance this looked like another week of certain failure, but a combination of yielding clues and a (very) lucky guess based on the first two words of the message set me nicely on course. I'm hopeless at diagonal symmetry so grid-building software was essential help. I think I understand the title - if I'm right it's a bit groanworthy!

Not an easy puzzle but very doable and good fun. Thanks Stan.
Initially quite challenging, but fun, even with the 'wordplay leads to extra letters' cropping up again.
Unlike Hagen I don't have grid-building software and being very spatially naive I don't see the symmetry at all! Nevertheless, an entertaining solve. Thanks Stan
Well, at least it took less time than last week! Some nice clues, the last few of which held me up for quite a while. Pleasing final grid. Many thanks, Stan.
Tough enough for me!

Thanks, Stan

BobHWW, symmetrical about the diagonal means that if there is a vertical bar after the nth cell of row i, then there is a horizontal bar below the nth cell of column i and vice versa.
Not as difficult as last week, but my heart sank when I saw the grid, and then sank even further as I worked my way through about 15 clues without getting a single answer. On top of which I allowed the symmetry to create its own little problems. All nicely resolved now. Thanks Stan, it was much appreciated.
Sorry. Very hard work (some of those clues were tough) and to me a strangely anticlimactic end result although at least it is unambiguous. And I still don't get the title either which is even more annoying! :¬(
Finished last night with a great deal of satisfaction. A tough solve, without being mind-warpingly extreme as with last week's puzzle.

I liked it! Thanks, Stan.
Finally there. A very enjoyable puzzle - thanks, Stan.

Although not at the insane level of last week, the blank grid made these clues surprisingly difficult.

Finally, this is the first time I've actually found the title to be useful - it confirmed something I needed to know at the time.
I enjoyed this very much (bar one annoying clue I can't parse, but that's more my fault than Stan's, I have no doubt). And I like the final grid. Thanks, Stan.

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