Pitch Invasions

Hopkirk | 07:09 Mon 23rd May 2022 | ChatterBank

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There's a lot in the news recently about the problem of pitch invasions.

They could stop it by informing all the fans that anyone identified as going onto the pitch would receive a ban from all stadiums. With CCTV this should be possible.

Is this too brutal?

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murraymints

does that not happen already and is generally accepted as the case ?

ichkeria

Yes this already happens: it’s actually illegal to invade the pitch

Hopkirk

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They only seem to do it when an invader assaults a player.
A more aggressive deterrent is needed

1ozzy

Get more brutal.
Hijacking and destroying other peoples enjoyment and income for 5 seconds of infamy is despicable.
Hang 'em from the nearest yardarm.

New Judge

//Yes this already happens://

A person can only be banned from all grounds if they are convicted of an offence under the football related legislation. A single club can ban a person from its own ground but they have no power to ban them from entering any other.

Such a ban is not too brutal, it's too lenient (on its own).

youngmafbog

Perhaps before coming up with a 'punishment' it would be useful to understand why there is a rise.

If say its down to bravado/Instagram 'fame' the we would need to treat it differently from say organised hooliganism or eve potential match fixing.

So, has anyone seen any such reports?

davebro

Dunno why/how folks get so het up about sport. I guess the rest of their lives must be pretty sad/boring.

Damn savages...

THECORBYLOON

NJ, a civil Football Banning Order can be issued still if the defendant has been acquitted or there was not enough evidence for a prosecution in the first place.

Deskdiary

The thing that always astonishes me about football fans, is that many of the invaders are adults, a lot of whom are middle-aged, and should know better.

When a Scottish team was playing in some cup final in Spain last week, there were pictures on the TV of grown men outside bars, jumping up and down with their shirts off, singing and chanting - all I could think of is that they looked pathetic and ridiculous and should bloody well grow up.

I've been a Saracens season ticket holder for more years than I care to remember, and also go to most England games at Twickenham, and it just doesn't happen in Rugby.

Peter Pedant

// that anyone identified as going onto the pitch would receive a ban//

yeah but that would give managers - - a free kick wouldnt it?

aelmpvw

puzzled why the villa goalie was being attacked, considering the result you'd think they'd be giving him big hugs . . .

New Judge

//NJ, a civil Football Banning Order can be issued still if the defendant has been acquitted or there was not enough evidence for a prosecution in the first place.//

Indeed Corby (in the same way that a Restraining Order can be issued by a court against an acquitted defendant). But such an order can only be made by a court. My remark was really directed towards this in the OP:

"They could stop it by informing all the fans that anyone identified as going onto the pitch would receive a ban from all stadiums."

I assumed that "they" were the football authorities and it seemed a bit simplistic that all "they" had to do was simply identify the miscreants.

douglas9401

"When a Scottish team was playing in some cup final in Spain last week,..."

Oh I say, well condescended.

steg

//…jumping up and down with their shirts off…//

Aye.. it’s an old Scot’s tradition called ‘taps aff’

Sqad

It's a human tribal reaction to success and football is tribal.
Just ban those who's response is physical or assaulting.

It is a human response and difficult to neutralise.

Deskdiary

"Oh I say, well condescended."

Not at all - I knew there was a game in Spain, but I wouldn't've known which teams were playing if my life depended on it, and the same would have applied if they were English teams (I do now, as I've just Googled it).

FatticusInch

Given that virtually every top league stadia are now all-seated I see no reason why they can’t bring back the pitch-side fencing.
There’s no need for the segregated pens that contributed to the Hillsborough disaster but a 10 ft high fence around the pitch perimeter with suitable anti climb mechanisms would solve the problem instantly.