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Barsel | 14:12 Sat 09th Jan 2021 | ChatterBank
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A friend of mine has an eye test appointment this coming week. As there isn't a bus service from A to B, she was going to get a taxi. One of her other friends said 'I'll take you. Sit in the back with a mask on like you would in a taxi, will be fine.'
Can she do this, what's the difference?
If the police were to see an 80yr old lady driving a 75yr old lady who is sitting in the back, would they get stopped, and if yes, would they be fined?
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They could always say they are in a support bubble together. Maybe they are ?

I would call that an exempt activity....providing care
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danny, doesn't answer my question really.
What's the difference between taxi taking you for an eye appointment or a friend?
burlyshirley they both have their separate families as their support bubble.
I mean if stopped by the stasi (sorry police) ..
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woofgang Are taxi drivers classed as providing care?
Barsel //What's the difference between taxi taking you for an eye appointment or a friend?//
Hard to tell from the Government guidelines.In essence I cannot see any difference,maybe it could be covered by the 'charitable act' exemption.
I think as you are helping someone that is vulnerable, given their age, you are perfectly legit in taking the lady to her appointment. I wouldn't give it a second though to be honest.
The logical thing to do would be to contact the local police station and ask them for guidance.
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The main reason I'm asking is because I know my friend would find it very difficult if she had to pay a fine.
1. She can leave home for medical purposes.

2. She can use public transport (which includes buses, trains, taxis) to get wherever she needs to go for those purposes.

(So long as she's not in Derbyshire, where seemingly the police make up the rules on where you can go and who you can see).
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Nj, as I said in my OP and as you have confirmed, she could get a taxi, but her friend as offered free of charge, to take her. I know she won't get stopped if she's in a taxi, but could she get stopped and fined if she is in her friends car?
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Sorry, has offered.
please try to be sensible

no no- sozza - this is AB. god AB had a deserted week end when the usual suspects were all away storming the Capitol
but hey theyre back now ....
to business

yeah I thinnk the driver would be indicted for encompassing the death of the monarch under the 1345 Act ( Treason act I have been thinking about that recently for some reason)

and the passenger held without trial for 45 d. - falsely impersonating a Qanon shaman - not wearing a horned hat.

I hve checked with NJ - he says I am right

Oh god I will pay her fine for her
tell her to go
and dont forget to tell her to put her teeth in so at least the police can understand her

o yeth offither ......
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PP are you on the right thread?
A couple of answers appeared whilst I was typing mine. Why is this complicated?

///Barsel //What's the difference between taxi taking you for an eye appointment or a friend?//
Hard to tell from the Government guidelines.In essence I cannot see any difference,maybe it could be covered by the 'charitable act' exemption.///

From the guidance (though not the law and it would be hard to see how they would enforce any transgression):

"Car sharing is not permitted with someone from outside your household or your support bubble unless your journey is undertaken for an exempt reason. For example, if car sharing is reasonably necessary as part of your work."

A journey for a medical appointment is an "exempt reason".

//The logical thing to do would be to contact the local police station and ask them for guidance.//

Unless you're in Derbyshire. In fact, I'd stick to my tried and trusted precaution which is that the very last person you should rely on for legal advice is a serving police officer (whether in Derbyshire or not).

And here's the big danger:

//The main reason I'm asking is because I know my friend would find it very difficult if she had to pay a fine.//

Recent events have shown that some people have now become frightened to leave home. Their fear is not of contracting the virus but of being quizzed by the police as to the purpose of their journey and of being "fined" if their response is not deemed acceptable. So Barsel's friend might choose to forego her medical appointment with all the consequences that may entail. That is why I have made such a fuss over the two ladies walking in Derbyshire. This country is descending into a state of apprehension and torpor, not because of the virus, but because of the restrictions they face (or in this case, do not face) and the behaviour of the police.

I'll repeat, if stopped they could say they are in a bubble together, the police can't prove they are not !

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PP ok I think you may be on the right thread, but not the sensible answer I know you are capable of giving.
The difference between taxi and private care is that the taxi would have more passengers and hence greater chance of viral transmission than your friend.

If it was a routine eye test......I would postpone it.

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