What Is The Point Of Closing The Pub Earlier?

[youngmafbog]

Most of the diktats from the current shambles of a Government I sort of get even if I disagree but I really dont understand how shutting the pub just one hour earlier will make a jot of difference.

Surely punters will just go back to the old days where you doubled up and sank the grog quicker so it cant be consumption related. And if you have been in the pub since 7:00 how will going home an hour earlier reduce it, very few will come in the pub between 10:00 and 11:00(and they will now come earlier anyway) so it cant be a numbers thing.

Perhaps someone can explain the logic of it?

[burlyshirley]

I can't understand the logic of any of this. I was supposed to be meeting a friend for lunch this week and I've now heard that here in Warrington we can't meet anyone from another household ! Here we go again.

[Bazile]

I'll see if Mr Spock is free

[woofgang]

but is it just an hour? how many city places have later licences? Its my understanding that for many of the younger punters, the evening consists of "loading" at home with mates before going out and hitting the pubs and clubs. If it was me, along with the curfew, I would be sending police out to break up the street gatherings that happen at closing time and sending people home. At least a curfew should stop much of the gathering we see on tv while enabling businesses to still have some income?

[mushroom25]

the game changer for some pubs will be the "table service only" rule.

some pubs will find this scenario uneconomic.

[Old_Geezer]

It's pretty daft. It's about being seen to be doing something, no matter how useless, to pacify the nervous. But the party is doing itself no favours showing themselves as unable to manage the situation properly and running around like headless chickens. The sooner they get real and stop reacting to smallish changes in the wrong measurements, the better.

[Gromit2]

Closing early makes absolutely no sense at all.

The amount of time people spend in the pub or restaurant is when they are at risk. Closing an hour early will mean people will just go out an hour earlier. And the time they risk exposure will be exactly the same.

[burlyshirley]

The government will probably close them all again anyway soon !

[woofgang]

as I said I think its the post street gatherings and the movement from place to place that will be stopped.

[Gromit2]

By imposing something which is plain daft, it undermines the whole strategy. Once people start to resent the rules, they are more likely to break them.

[burlyshirley]

That's been happening anyway Gromit.

[woofgang]

I think the rule ignoring is a good point. Stuff like a total curfew is much less easy to ignore.

[Ken4155]

This is my attempt to understand the thinking (?!) behind this curfew; Many folk get home from work, have a bite to eat, bathe/shower, then out to the pub. There they will stay until that dreaded ringing of the bell when they hug and kiss each other goodnight, professing undying love for one another, particularly the person behind the bar. Now, no-one will be finishing work an hour earlier nor missing their meal to compensate for the lost 60 mins drinking time. So they won't be as drunk come 'chucking out time' and therefore won't feel the need to become all huggy/kissy. So simple it's brilliant :-//

[Gromit2]

How do you stop the movement from place to place ?

If someone comes out at noon, are the expected to stay in the same venue for 10 hours?

[Gromit2]

From my observation, from 10 until 11 is no longer a busy time in the pub. Where I live (in a hotspot area) the pubs have been closing at 10 Monday-Friday because there is not enough people out.

[Old_Geezer]

Clearly not enforceable, Grom.
Wasn't when stopping folk moving across the country, less so walking through the town from the pub towards home, or are they going away from home towards the pub, or....

[Ken4155]

You've got to admit, coupled with the 'work from home if you can' mantra, it's all a bit 'hokey-cokey'.

[royfromaus]

Could be just psychological.

Pubs shut at eleven...people think things are just about back to normal
Pubs shut at ten...people are reminded that there's still a battle to be had.

Also as woof says, it means the kids don't go clubbing.

[Canary42]

The Covid only comes out well after dark, all Good Tories know that ;-)

The Bogey Man will get you - waaaahhhhhhhhhhh.

[Apc2604]

If Woofy were my MP I would vote for her!

[Gromit2]

// People will again be encouraged to go back to the workplace in a government ad campaign starting next week (early September). //

Well that was a waste of money.