Uk Can Learn From Low Crime Dubai, Says Reform's Tice

[naomi24]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1w3e3yn843o

 

Considering TTT's post below, can we learn from Dubai?

[Ken4155]

It's probably the fear of being stuck in hell-holes, like the one in ttt's thread, that deters most crime in Dubai.

We don't have such places so what, i wonder, does Tice believe we ought to do?

[Untitled]

Dubai is a horrible place. The way they've gotten around crime is just to make mistreating and exploiting people effectively legal

[naomi24]

But that's why the crime rate is so low, untitled.  

[ToraToraTora]

well as you know I am no fan of our Muslim friends but I do have some admiration for how they deal with low life criminal scum.

[Canary42]

Concentration Camps are coming back if Reform get in

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1895577.html

 

[youngmafbog]

Given Labours anti sematic views more likey LABOUR will being them in Canary.

[Ellipsis]

Is it a coincidence that it's the undemocratic countries that have the most strict prisons ...

[youngmafbog]

The USA has strict prisons, that is very democratic (And the left not winning doesn mean it is undemocratic).

To answer the OP, yes I believe we can learn.  Wouldnt want the same model for the Justice system but certainly on locking up scum.

[Hymie]

//The USA has strict prisons, that is very democratic//

 

Currently the Trump administration is shipping people out to foreign jails without due process (any court hearing) – let’s hope we don’t have a similar democratic process in the UK.

[youngmafbog]

Illegal Foreign ciminals.  

I hope we do.

[Hymie]

I wonder what youngmafbog would think if he was shipped off to a foreign jail, with no recourse to legal representation?

[Hymie]

So without any legal representation you think that you can prove to the authorities that you are not an illegal foreign criminal (with no visa or other documentation on you) – how does that work?

[Ellipsis]

> The USA has strict prisons

Do they have "the most strict prisons" - compared to the Dubai one in the OP, for example? Or Russia? Or Myanmar?  No, compared to those undemocratic regimes, American prisons are soft. The reason is that undemocratic regimes can do whatever they like ... 

[New Judge]

"So without any legal representation you think that you can prove to the authorities that you are not an illegal foreign criminal (with no visa or other documentation on you)..."

In the case of those deported from the US, I don't think it's a case of not having the documentation on them. I think it's more a case of them not having it - full stop.

There's a simple way to avoid being deported from a country in which you have no permission to remain - don't enter them in the first place.

[Hymie]

So you think that when the authorities arrest these suspected illegal foreign criminals – they say to them (if they don’t have the required documentation on them), go home and come back with the proof/documentation showing that you are not an illegal foreign criminal?

[sandyRoe]

There used to be Draconian punishment for criminals in Pakistan, including amputation of hands.  I'm sure it hasn't reduced the number of crimes.

[Khandro]

It has nothing at all to do with the severity of punishment - that is the vengeance of the authority. But a very large proportion of the population are Muslims and real Muslims fear the 'wrath of God' (as once the majority population of British Christians did ).

As religion declines, criminality increases. Go figure!

 

 

[naomi24]

That's nonsense, khandro.  Muslims are no more honest than anyone else - but the thought of losing a hand - or even a life in some countries - deters.