He Hadn't Got A Clue Had He.

[gulliver1]

Boris and his Tory Cronies only realised the full impact of leaving the EU would have on dealing with the small boats crisis,* Just before Brexit*.,,,, admits Boris's former immigration minister. In a leaked recording Chris Phillips says the  Tories were  too late to understand the extent to which people crossing the channel could have been returned to EU Countries they had previously claimed Asylum in..

[theshedman]

While we were still in the EU didn't they tell us at one time that we had to take in more of them and that was part of the reason for Brexit but not the only reason.

[gulliver1]

NJ 22.07...."It is getting to the point where even I may choose to simply ignore your Questions"

[naomi24]

No change there, gulliver,  You ignore everyone's questions.

[New Judge]

It's my own fault. I should remember what Mark Twain said:

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”  🤣

 

[Hymie]

Yes, like me Gully does not understand that nothing is the fault of Brexit – sunlight uplands, cheaper shoes, clothing etc and whatever Reece Mogg promised.

[New Judge]

Never mind about shoes, clothes and sunlit uplands. This thread is about the small boat problem.

Perhaps you might tell us how the small boat problem either would never have occurred or would have been quickly cured had the UK remained an EU member.

[gulliver1]

Hymie 16.09,,Can't imagine Moggy walking around the Sat market looking for cheap shoes and clothing can you Hymie?

[Hymie]

//Perhaps you might tell us how the small boat problem either would never have occurred or would have been quickly cured had the UK remained an EU member.//

 

I think I’ve answered this already – as EU members we (along with all other EU members) would be operating under the Dublin Agreement, whereby asylum seekers could be returned to the first safe country they entered.

Being at the western end of Europe, we would have the advantage that most (if not all asylum seekers) would have transited a safe country before reaching the UK.

 

You only need look at graphical data showing numbers of arrival in the UK since 2016 to see this effect.

[gulliver1]

Nj 12.50.  I have neither the time or the crayons to try to explain to you what this post is all about.🤣🤣🤣🤣😎.

[New Judge]

"I think I’ve answered this already – as EU members we (along with all other EU members) would be operating under the Dublin Agreement, whereby asylum seekers could be returned to the first safe country they entered."

Did you read he information I provided about the Dublin Agreement and the effect it had on the UK in the last years it was applicable here? Or was I simply wasting my time in the same way as I would when responding to the poster of this question?

Read the Dublin Agreemen; read what its intentions are; research what effect it had on the UK's asylum system. Then let us know if you still think "...asylum seekers could be returned to the first safe country they entered"  under its provisions.

[New Judge]

"You only need look at graphical data showing numbers of arrival in the UK since 2016 to see this effect."

The UK was still subject to the Dublin Agreement until January 2020. It was still making requests for transfers out (and was subject to successful requests for transfer in) for all that time - as I explained (and provided data for) in my earlier post.

You clearly have no understanding of what the Dublin Agreement was about. To help you a little, it said nothing about where an asylum seeker must make his first application or about returning them to the first safe country they arrived in.

What it did was to determine which member state was responsible for dealing with an asylum claim (hence the reason why there were "transfers in" to the UK under its provisions of people who had never previously set foot here). Its principal aim was to prevent asylum claimants from lodging applications in multiple EU countries, not to repatriate them simply because they have arrived illegally.

Please have a read up before you make rash statements.