Concern Lesson Plans Encouraged Strangulation During Sex

[naomi24]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3dkd20mjlzo  

 

Why does whoever plans these lessons think that children need to be taught about perversion?   I'm convinced that when brains were being handed out they were the last in line.

[youngmafbog]

I can see your point but I do also see the other side.

The big problem is Social Media and some parts of the Internet.  This is leading young people, both girls and boys, to learn about it.  As it is a dangerous practice maybe(?) its best to give them all the information?

I wouldnt be surprised if this practice is more wide ranging than people think.  I met two girls who requested it and that was before the uinternet.  I have to say its something I didnt like.

[Untitled]

if you're going to do it then it's best to learn how to do it safely.

[Untitled]

naomi's link isn't working so i looked for it

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3dkd20mjlzo

"A council has been criticised for creating a PowerPoint presentation that appeared to endorse strangulation during sex that was intended to be used in schools.

The slides included the sentence: "It is never OK to start choking someone without asking them first."

so it's one perfectly reasonable sentence in a powerpoint presentation. i don't think there's any reason to be "concerned" about this.

[naomi24]

The chances are if this idea wasn't presented to the children the idea would never occur to them.  To advise seeking permission doesn't negate the irresponsibility of the adults involved in messing with young minds by promoting what is a dangerous and sick perversion.  

[chelle7272]

It has been in the news this week that school children are asking about this. I would support any teaching that encourages seeking  consent and safe practices.

https://news.sky.com/story/schoolchildren-asking-for-advice-on-strangulation-during-sex-13363996

[Ellipsis]

Why would this kind of material be created locally, at Bridgend?  Surely something like this should either be sanctioned at a national level, or not at all - to avoid waste and to give a consistent message across the country, for a start ...

[Untitled]

it doesn't matter if you think it is perversion naomi or even if you think it is sick. the point is that teenagers have sex and they don't always have the kind of sex that others approve of. the purpose of an educator is to teach them how to do that safely and consensually in order to equip them for adult life of which sex is part. parents aren't going to do it and if schools don't then the likes of andrew tate will.

[chelle7272]

/The chances are if this idea wasn't presented to the children the idea would never occur to them//

 

Possibl, but I strongly doubt that a school presentation is the first time children have heard of it.

More likely it is in reponse to children's questions as I posted above. 

[barry1010]

It is naive to think 14 year olds wouldn't be aware of strangulation and other sexual activities. Sadly children are watching hard core porn earlier. 

Parents can put every lock block and monitor on their kids devices but they will be seeing in their friends'. 

I had some daft ideas about sex which could have got me in to a lot of trouble, so did my children at that age.

I don't want 14 year olds to know about strangulation and all the non-bioligical facts of sexual acts but the probability is they do.

They need to be taught that porn is not real life, that good relationships and good sex is not like porn and consent is vital.

The internet opened Pandora's box and we have to deal with it

[naomi24]

What children are taught matters to me, untitled.  Kids have enough pressure on them today without loonies teaching them what they think is 'normal' and 'acceptable'.   This practice is neither.

[Untitled]

what children are taught matters to me as well. the fact of the matter is that this is a sexual practise that some people engage in... and teenagers should be taught to remember to respect consent.

there is nothing in that sentence which encourages choking.... it simply does not condemn it.

[douglas9401]

"The internet opened Pandora's box and we have to deal with it"

That sentence wins the internet today.

[chelle7272]

You make it sound like a teacher just decided it would be a good subject, and are encouraging children to do it, which is ridiculous. 

They are being educated about a subject they are already talking about if not already practising. 

Any teacher addressing actual issues that young people are dealing with today is doing good work imo.

 

 

[naomi24]

untitled, //there is nothing in that sentence which encourages choking.... it simply does not condemn it.//

 

Well it should.

[barry1010]

When my children were that age they were encouraged to ask anonymous questions about sex by putting notes in a box to be answered during biology classes.

It was me that blushed when my kids told me what the poor teacher had to answer.  This was long before the internet. 

[Untitled]

why should it condemn choking done in a consensual way?

[naomi24]

untitled, //why should it condemn choking done in a consensual way?//

 

Because anything less validates something that at the very least has the potential to cause physical injury and at the worst to end lives.                                 

[youngmafbog]

Another of those rare occasions (although they seem to becoming ore regular!) that I agree entirely with Untitled.

One persons perversion is another persons norm.  As I said above I have personally encoutered it twice both times with the women asking specifically for it.  And this was before the Internet.

With the advent of the Internet kids are being driven to find out more about things, perhaps earlier.  Tate matbe the provider but he did not start it nor is he the only one by far. Although I knew about it at school and that was prior to 1976 so the Internet is not entirely to blame.

//has the potential to cause physical injury and at the worst to end lives.//

As for injury, many sexual acts have the potentil for that.  Swing from the Chandaliers? How many other acts do you want to hide like the Victorians did?

As for the death part, yes this is true and hence why its best to educate the kids before it happens.  Cant turn the clock back once someones dead and if it saves just one person then it will be worth it.

 

[naomi24]

And if validating it leads to kids trying it and dying in the process?  Far safer to advise against it altogether.  That's education.  Anything less is dangerous and irreponsible.

[bednobs]

In your opinion, an opinion Not shared byThe majority of respondents to this question. I don't think any of us here have any hope of influencing policy on this type of thing in schools