West Mercia Police Grant

[nicebloke1]

Of 180 million to fund 13k police officers and special constables. Well done SK. Could you please stand outside your front door at 8.00pm tonight, to clap SK government. Thks :0)

[ToraToraTora]

should have had a word with the abacus she knows where you can get 30000 plods for £2.50 a throw!

[gramps85]

As I said to one of your previous posts, I am too busy watching some paint dry, which I find is a better use of my time.

[newmodarmy]

Do you have a link please? I'm wondering how this works.

£180 million  divided by 13000 policepersons= £13846 per policeperson.

With employer costs (NI, training, recruitment, uniforms, pension etc) on top of the payroll cost £180 million would cover these salaries for about 10 weeks.

[mushroom25]

not sure i'd want to be seen on my doorstep applauding the extra 5% increase in council tax that looks set to pay for this uplift - particularly after SKS promised the electorate he wouldn't permit council tax rises.......

[New Judge]

"...should have had a word with the abacus she knows where you can get 30000 plods for £2.50 a throw!"

Not quite that bad, but if I was a going to stand outside for anything, it would be to ask SK (or whoever sent this news to the media) how they intend to fund 13,000 police officers and Specials with funds which amount to just £13,846 each.

[naomi24]

I expect Rachel has been doing their sums for them again.

[newmodarmy]

''We have now increased our total headcount so that at the end of September 2024 we had 2,524 officers, bucking the national trend since many other forces saw their numbers slightly. But, you have to look behind the figures a little too.

“In the 15 years between 2009 and 2024, we have gained just over 50 officers ''

I don't think it's an extra 1300o police for West Mercia police- that would be an increase from 2500 to 15500!

I'd check the details if I were you.

[New Judge]

And NMA beat me to it.

Just shows that there aare at least two of us who can do sums -  a fact which many politicians seem to be unaware of. 

[Deskdiary]

Gulliver certainly couldn't do his sums.

[nicebloke1]

Police and specials, the latter dont get paid, uniform and out of pocket expenses only. The negativity of this country is off the scale. Doom and gloom gets them through the day it appears.

[Deskdiary]

Correction to my earlier post - nicebloke, not Gulliver, certainly couldn't do his sums.

 

(Although easy mistake to make given they are peas in a pod). 

[newmodarmy]

So they're generously shelling out for mainly unpaid staff? And where does West Mercia fit into this? Isn't it nationally but West Mercia police have  said it's good news?

Links woould help remove any doubts as to whether your facts are correct or based on a big misunderstanding

[davebro3]

it's their badge of honour that gully & nicebloke refuse to do links...

[barry1010]

The cost to recruit and train one special constable is around £4200. 'Running costs' are around £1800 per year. Special constables can also claim loss of earnings from their usual job if they have to be on duty during their normal working hours.  This happens more often than you might think - attending court or for training.  

Special constables are only required to work 166 hours a year (equivalent to 3 hours a week).  If a special constable is injured on duty the force must usually pay sick pay for up to 28 weeks and compensation.

So a special constable is not necessarily the bargain bucket police officer some might think

[newmodarmy]

Thanks barry. Despite what the OP says, I am pretty certain the extra 13000 that are to be funded won't all be in West Mercia!

[nicebloke1]

17.39 And the cost wont come out of one years grant, the grants are ongoing yearly, so to deduct all that cost of the full extra number of staff is stupid. The cons promised 20k new officers across the board, it never happened. I say again this 180 million is for WM budget

[barry1010]

They certainly won't, it's to be spread across every force

[douglas9401]

What's 'special' about them?

[nicebloke1]

They like faster BMWs

[newmodarmy]

Again, nicebloke, why not provide an authoritative link to show you haven't misunderstood what's happening. Your figures, if they are indeed for WM, just don't seem consistent with current numbers.