Now Over 18,000 Channel Illegal Immigrants So Far This Year

[Gromit]

We look set to beat last years appalling total of 28,000+

Government policy is failing (has been for 3 years).
Yet the minister over seeing this debacle keeps her job.

Is this problem really unsolvable ?

[Zacs-Master]

Just so there's no room for ambiguity, Gromit, (as in the other thread) could you give us a link to your source for the stats?

[ToraToraTora]

what's the 5C solution then?

[ToraToraTora]

I think gromit is mystified people want to come here at all.

[Gromit]

Here is a link

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11088973/More-18-000-migrants-crossed-Channel-far-year-337-arrived-Saturday.html

Sorry the source is unreliable.

[Zacs-Master]

Everything is relative, Tora.

[Gromit]

// Figures show that 12,840 people have made the crossing since Priti Patel announced the Rwanda deal on April 14. //

So much for that being a deterrent.

[naomi24]

//So much for that being a deterrent. //

Without interference from anonymous unelected foreign judges, it would be.... but you know that.

[Mozz71]

Remember those multi-million pound payments we made to France to keep them out? I wonder if Boris kept the receipt.

[ToraToraTora]

yes gromit you keep banging on about the issue and attempts to solve it but you fail to offer any ideas of your own.

[Gromit]

Mozz
Hope they kept the receipt for the £120 million they have given Rwanda so far..

[ToraToraTora]

so no suggestions then?

[Hazi-Hammenuhoth]

What would you suggest, Gromit? Come on, we're all ears.

[Mozz71]

It's not Gromit's job to come up with workable plans to stop the migrants Tora, it's the government's. And Priti Patel has proven ten shades of useless in coming up with something.

[ToraToraTora]

so he cherry picks figures to aid his 5C agenda knocks any attempt at a solution and offers none of his own, right oh! Glad you cleared that up mozz.

[Gromit]

Tora,
I am flattered that you think I can solve the Problem.
The Home Office have to work it out, not me. They have not had a credible plan since this Home Secretary took over in 2019. Under her predecessor there were less than 300 channel migrants. Under Patel there have been over 50,000!!!
I don’t have a plan. But my start would be to sack Patel who has failed miserably (not just on immigration, but on policing and crime also) and task her replacement with formulating a new plan.
And ditch this Rwanda nonsense which is a costly gimmick and will solve nothing.

[Gromit]

// cherry picks figures //

The only figure I have present is 18,000. Are you disputing that ??

[youngmafbog]

Its not Patel that needs sacking its the ECHR and a few Civil servants.

[Mozz71]

I'm not sure how you got all that from "Priti Patel is useless" Tora, but whatevs. Hopefully when the new leader is in power, one of the first things they do is relieve Patel of her position, as she is hopelessly over her head.

[Mozz71]

Unfortunately YMB we have no power to remove the ECHR. Even if we were still in the EU, we would've been on voice against the others.

[ToraToraTora]

You 5C types keep having a go at Patel but whatever she does she gets stymied by our own laws, our own hand wringers or the ECHR. You offer no solutions no ideas yet you berate every attempt the government makes.