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Captain Hindsight Doing A U Turn On Brexit.

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lankeela | 11:46 Mon 04th Jul 2022 | News
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He says its not a u turn its a 'development'.
// There are some who say ‘We don’t need to make Brexit work. We need to reverse it.’
I couldn’t disagree more. Because you cannot move forward or grow the country or deliver change or win back the trust of those who have lost faith in politics if you’re constantly focused on the arguments of the past.
We cannot afford to look back over our shoulder. Because all the time we are doing that we are missing what is ahead of us.
So let me be very clear: with Labour, Britain will not go back into the EU. We will not be joining the single market. We will not be joining a customs union.
The reason I say this is simple. Nothing about revisiting those rows will help stimulate growth or bring down food prices or help British business thrive in the modern world.
It would simply be a recipe for more division, it would distract us from taking on the challenges facing people, and it would ensure Britain remained stuck for another decade.
While the Conservatives are flailing around, lashing out, and attempting to sow division, Labour has been claiming the centre ground of British politics once again.
The government have missed Brexit opportunities time and time again. //
i never understood the scorn associated with "u-turns" of any colour. Antoher way of putting it would be updated thinking in light of current evidence
Story is 5 years old according to the link?
From the link.
//On The Andrew Marr Show Shadow Brexit secretary Sir Keir Starmer//

He’s been promoted since 2017, in case you missed it!
4th September 2017 - hardly NEWS.
While the EU referendum was very close, Labour's red wall constituencies were more keen on brexit than most. And resoundingly rejected Labour policy at the last election.
By agreeing to a status quo, he is getting core labour voters back on board. That will disappoint the Remainers in his party and amongst voters in the country. It is a calculated bet that being anti EU resonates with the country even if it does not in his party. It is yet another fudge, but this time more likely to get Labour elected. I reckon there will be a row about it within the party.
I see the Remainers have their finger on the pulse. ;-) (sorry lankeela)
Starmer is making a speech tonight, the text of which is being revealed. He says Britain will not go back into the EU. We will not be joining the single market. We will not be joining a customs union.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. Obviously, he's trying to recover the Red Wall voters.
Should the thread be moved to Chatterbank, History or even Jokes in light of the OP headline?
FatticusInch (and others)

The OP might have mistakenly posted an old link, but the story is very topical. Starmer is making a speech tonight.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/jul/04/keir-starmer-labour-brexit-policy-boris-johnson-chris-pincher-uk-politics-live

Please catch up.
So I was right, History section it is then!
Can't blame others when a wrong link is put up, gromit.
I have trouble reading never mind mind reading.
FT.
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Sir Keir Starmer will on Monday signal that Labour is willing to fight Boris Johnson over his Brexit legacy at the next election, setting out a five-point plan to tackle the economic pain caused by Britain’s EU exit.

In a big tactical shift, Starmer will use a speech to denounce the “mess” created by the UK prime minister’s 2020 Brexit deal and the breakdown of trust with the EU caused by the row over the trading arrangements for Northern Ireland.

The Labour leader has until now shied away from talking about Brexit, fearing it would alienate Leave voters, but he has been emboldened by emerging evidence of the hit the departure has inflicted on the economy.

He will claim that Labour can “make Brexit work”, arguing that Johnson’s Brexit deal had contributed to a sense of a country that was “stuck”, with wages and growth stagnating and broken public services.

“They have created a hulking ‘fatberg’ of red tape,” he will say in a speech, comparing Brexit to the “wet wipe island” found in the river Thames. “It is hampering the flow of British business — we will break that barrier down.”

Brexit had become something of a taboo subject for Labour’s leadership: one-third of Labour supporters voted Leave in 2016 and Starmer was associated with the ill-fated campaign to overturn that result.

But new data has started to separate the economic effects of Brexit from the Covid pandemic, showing a dismal UK performance for trade and investment compared with other G7 countries.

An Ipsos UK study found last week the proportion of Britons who think Brexit has made their daily life worse has risen from 30 per cent in June 2021 to 45 per cent; only 17 per cent said their lives had been made better.

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Starmer will insist that a Labour government would not seek to rejoin the EU’s single market or customs union or reintroduce freedom of movement — let alone seek to reverse the 2016 Leave vote.

“Nothing about revisiting those rows will help stimulate growth or bring down food prices or help British business thrive in the modern world — it would simply be a recipe for more division,” he will say.

Labour would seek a veterinary agreement with the EU to cut onerous agrifood checks, mutual recognition of product standards and a deal on mobility to facilitate short business trips and help artists tour in Europe.

Starmer would use the agrifood deal to remove most checks on trade between Great Britain and Northern Ireland and negotiate a trusted trader scheme to end the stand-off with Brussels over the rules, contained in the part of the Brexit deal called the Northern Ireland Protocol.

The Labour leader said business leaders wanted to safeguard the protocol, which leaves Northern Ireland in the single market for goods. “The solutions are there, the desire is there — what is lacking is trust,” he will say.

The German and Irish foreign ministers on Sunday wrote an opinion article in The Observer accusing Johnson of not engaging with Brussels on the protocol in “good faith”. They wrote there was no “legal or political justification” for his decision to introduce legislation to rip up parts of the agreement.

Starmer will say Labour would negotiate mutual recognition of professional qualifications and keep Britain in EU science programmes, including the €95bn Horizon scheme, which is cherished by UK researchers//
fatticusinch

Do you have anything to say about Starmer and the contents of his speech.

You seem to be deliberately avoiding the question.

Or it it just too difficult for you to give an answer.
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Data adequacy rules would be aligned but Starmer would follow Johnson in pursuing a different course on City regulation, he will say in an address to the Centre for European Reform.

The plan would also include more co-operation with the EU on justice and police matters including a new “security pact”.

Johnson is likely to portray Starmer’s speech as evidence of Labour wanting to unpick Brexit, a policy that was embraced by many working class voters in the former “red wall” in northern England.

Some senior Labour figures, including London mayor Sadiq Khan, want Starmer to go further and to commit to rejoining the EU single market, but that has been ruled out by party strategists.

Even the Liberal Democrats, who favour a return to the single market, have not set any timetable for the move, reluctant to re-engage the British public in a debate whose scars remain unhealed.


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