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Egg On Her Face
A statue of a Thatcher was covered in eggs only two hours after being erected in her home town of Grantham at a cost of £300.000,after plans to install it in Parliament Square were abandoned for fear it would be vandalised. Wonder if Eggwina Currie was there.?
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Interestingly, I read a commentary today about the pathetic, juvenile Mr Webster and his egg-throwing exploits. It concluded that the success of a Tory politician can be measured by how much they wind up those on the Left. Mrs Thatcher has been out of office for thirty years and dead for ten. Yet still we get faux outrage levied at her by people like Mr Webster (who seems not to have had a proper job in his life) after all this time. This must make her (as if confirmation was needed) a very successful Prime Minister indeed.
Her greatest achievement - 'The Right to Buy' on one's property...her biggest disaster, not the mines or the poll tax - but she missed out on elevating Hong Kong to a much more positive platform...akin to the relationship that Monaco enjoys with France today - and, from the Chinese perspective, such a relationship could have brought Taiwan closer into accepting the Sino-fold....
By any objective measure, Thatcher and Thatcherism was an enormous success for this country.
Anybody who refuses to acknowledge this fact are wilfully refusing to acknowledge it.
Unless, of course, they enjoyed the dark days of 70s Labour. I wasn’t old enough to remember the true horrors, but I do distinctly remember doing my homework and eating dinner by candlelight.
Anybody who refuses to acknowledge this fact are wilfully refusing to acknowledge it.
Unless, of course, they enjoyed the dark days of 70s Labour. I wasn’t old enough to remember the true horrors, but I do distinctly remember doing my homework and eating dinner by candlelight.
"n the decade prior to 1980 the Marxist hard Left had come so close to taking power.
Using a linked network of activists in the constituencies, the Militant Tendency in the unions and the old pro-Moscow veterans in unions and the parliamentary Labour Party, they almost had control of Labour and, with one election victory, the country.
They were within a whisker of the culminating victory after six decades of struggle.
They could hold us all to ransom, day after week after month. They were within a whisker of the culminating victory after six decades of struggle.
Pacifist premier Michael Foot would have crumpled. A timorous Tory leader would have done the same. And then this blasted Iron Lady came along.
And she beat them all until their Marxist-Leninist dream was dead for ever. She beat them not with cavalry charges but through the ballot box. They lost at each of the three elections.
They lost every time a working man, under her legislation, voted in secret not to strike. And for that they will never, ever forgive her. That is where the hatred comes from. So let us note and mark the haters - they are Britain's enemies too."
Using a linked network of activists in the constituencies, the Militant Tendency in the unions and the old pro-Moscow veterans in unions and the parliamentary Labour Party, they almost had control of Labour and, with one election victory, the country.
They were within a whisker of the culminating victory after six decades of struggle.
They could hold us all to ransom, day after week after month. They were within a whisker of the culminating victory after six decades of struggle.
Pacifist premier Michael Foot would have crumpled. A timorous Tory leader would have done the same. And then this blasted Iron Lady came along.
And she beat them all until their Marxist-Leninist dream was dead for ever. She beat them not with cavalry charges but through the ballot box. They lost at each of the three elections.
They lost every time a working man, under her legislation, voted in secret not to strike. And for that they will never, ever forgive her. That is where the hatred comes from. So let us note and mark the haters - they are Britain's enemies too."
“You have no enemies, you say? Alas, my friend, the boast is poor. He who has mingled in the fray of duty that the brave endure, must have made foes. If you have none, small is the work that you have done. You’ve hit no traitor on the hip. You’ve dashed no cup from perjured lip. You’ve never turned the wrong to right. You’ve been a coward in the fight.”
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// The Thatcher enablers.Bastrads.//
I don’t quite understand what you mean.
In 1979 the Conservatives won 339 seats – an overall majority of 21 (there were 635 Commons seats then). The Scottish Nationalists won 2 seats – 9 down on their previous total. Of these nine seats lost, 6 went to Labour and 3 to the Conservatives. Even if the Tories had won no seats at all in Scotland (highly unlikely in 1979 and regardless of whether they were won by Labour, the SNP or anybody else) they would still have secured 317 seats overall. This would have been one short of an overall majority, but with the support of the Ulster Unionists, Mrs Thatcher would still have been asked to form a government.
Put simply, the Scottish Nationalists (or indeed Scotland as a whole) were simply not a deciding factor in the 1979 General Election.
I don’t quite understand what you mean.
In 1979 the Conservatives won 339 seats – an overall majority of 21 (there were 635 Commons seats then). The Scottish Nationalists won 2 seats – 9 down on their previous total. Of these nine seats lost, 6 went to Labour and 3 to the Conservatives. Even if the Tories had won no seats at all in Scotland (highly unlikely in 1979 and regardless of whether they were won by Labour, the SNP or anybody else) they would still have secured 317 seats overall. This would have been one short of an overall majority, but with the support of the Ulster Unionists, Mrs Thatcher would still have been asked to form a government.
Put simply, the Scottish Nationalists (or indeed Scotland as a whole) were simply not a deciding factor in the 1979 General Election.
What i was saying,NJ,was that the SNP chancers are always moaning about Thatcher,but it was the SNP back in 1979 who were her main backers.Ever after they have been called the Tartan Tories up here in Scotland .Why did they vote with Thatcher back in 1979?No-one knows,but they were the main backers of Thatcher.Eejits.
//...but it was the SNP back in 1979 who were her main backers.//
It's not that straightforward according to the article Corby kindly provided:
"Had the SNP not withheld its support, Callghan’s government might have staggered on – but only for a few months, as it would have been obliged to go to the country by October, when its five-year term of office lapsed. Either way, the SNP was not responsible for Labour losing the May election that followed the lost vote of confidence. Margaret Thatcher’s victory was basically due to the “winter of discontent”, an unprecedented wave of public sector strikes, which allowed the Conservative leader to credibly argue that the post-war settlement had to be overthrown for the good of the country. Perhaps the memory of that dreadful winter of strife might have faded by the autumn, and given Callaghan a better chance of re-election – but given the shadow it was to cast over the 1980s, it seems unlikely."
The memory of that dreadful winter would not have faded by the following autumn. Believe me, I lived through the 1970s and the memories have not faded now. Another five years like that (which would almost certainly have followed had Labour been re-elected) and the economic mire that this country had descended into would have been too deep to climb out of.
I despised the Labour politicians of the 1960s and 70s who allowed this country to descend into chaos and penury. They caused me and mine tremendous difficulties and inconvenience that took a decade to fully recover from. The difference is I've moved on, that was then, this is now, and I certainly didn't rejoice when James Callaghan died in 2005. It's a shame the "Thatcher haters" can't do likewise.
It's not that straightforward according to the article Corby kindly provided:
"Had the SNP not withheld its support, Callghan’s government might have staggered on – but only for a few months, as it would have been obliged to go to the country by October, when its five-year term of office lapsed. Either way, the SNP was not responsible for Labour losing the May election that followed the lost vote of confidence. Margaret Thatcher’s victory was basically due to the “winter of discontent”, an unprecedented wave of public sector strikes, which allowed the Conservative leader to credibly argue that the post-war settlement had to be overthrown for the good of the country. Perhaps the memory of that dreadful winter of strife might have faded by the autumn, and given Callaghan a better chance of re-election – but given the shadow it was to cast over the 1980s, it seems unlikely."
The memory of that dreadful winter would not have faded by the following autumn. Believe me, I lived through the 1970s and the memories have not faded now. Another five years like that (which would almost certainly have followed had Labour been re-elected) and the economic mire that this country had descended into would have been too deep to climb out of.
I despised the Labour politicians of the 1960s and 70s who allowed this country to descend into chaos and penury. They caused me and mine tremendous difficulties and inconvenience that took a decade to fully recover from. The difference is I've moved on, that was then, this is now, and I certainly didn't rejoice when James Callaghan died in 2005. It's a shame the "Thatcher haters" can't do likewise.
three genius words on a poster won it for TGL:
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