Should A Bloke Be Allowed In Womens Cycle Races?

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/trans-cyclist-rachel-mckinnon-defends-her-right-to-race-in-womens-competitions-11838131
...so here's another sport about to be sacrificed on the TROB altar. Is this sort of thing the beginning of the end for women's sport? In the end we'll have men's sport and men that are not quite good enough at men's sport, sport!

[naomi24]

No. If this stupidity carries on women may as well give up.

[Sqad]

In my opinion, the question of sex is overcomplicated.

The answer is simple....DNA.

If you have XX chromosomes you are female and if you have XY chromosomes you are male.

Any abnormality of the sex chromosomes which is unusual then you are barred from competitive sport.

I can't see the problem with my solution.

[jim360]

The question of how to accommodate transgender people in sport is fraught enough as it is without throwing deliberate insensitivity into the mix.

[douglas9401]

Some might day it's sensitivity that's brought us to this place.

[naomi24]

Transgender people don't seem to be all that sensitive to the feelings of real women, Jim. They're happy to hijack their sports - and their toilets, etc., regardless of the upset that causes.

[ToraToraTora]

sqad, BA, don't thank me!

[jim360]

Some people might be wrong, then. Difficult conversations, and this is surely one, are made easier if everyone starts off with at least a modicum of respect. Referring to any trans person as a "bloke" isn't even trying.

[ToraToraTora]

sqad: "If you have XX chromosomes you are female and if you have XY chromosomes you are male" - indeed, end of!

[ToraToraTora]

I have no respect for men that pretend to be women because they cannot compete with the men. I have even less respect for a society and/or sporting association that allows it.

[Sqad]

TTT LOL...I didn't intend to thank you ;-0

[douglas9401]

Shrugs

[jim360]

// "If you have XX chromosomes you are female and if you have XY chromosomes you are male"... end of! //

A definition like this may well make more sense in sport (although only partially, since testosterone levels are probably more relevant, but the definition above can be presumably adapted to accommodate that); but it's not "end of" when it comes to societal roles, where your chromosomes simply don't matter and are in any case personal.

[naomi24]

Jim, I see little respect for women in any of this. This person is a man.

[Stickybottle]

From the link :

The highest-profile transgender athlete in the world
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Never heard of him/her/them

[davebro]

In some sports everyone competes together & are then categorised according to gender e.g. first male/first female.

They could use male/trans/female as the categories.

[Ken4155]

Perhaps all those competitors who were born female should refuse to race. What would the organisers do then?

[ToraToraTora]

great idea ken, hope they do that.

[roadman]

if she is trans then is she a bloke is a better question

[tiggerblue10]

Has there ever been a case where a trans person entering a women's competition hasn't won where strength and speed are required?

[Togo]

Perhaps Mckinnon and others of the same condition could be handicapped like horse racing or golf contests are. Make em ride an old bike or something.