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Why Isn't It Considered Racist
when news stories point out that people are black or people of colour - twice this week stories have centred on someone's ethnicity. The woman who trekked to the South Pole was the 'first woman of colour' to do so and now Sidney Poitier is being hailed as the first black actor to win an Oscar for Best Actor. Surely that is being racist by pointing it out?
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Time we stopped talking about colour and treated people as people. Prejudice won’t end until we do.
08:25 Sat 08th Jan 2022
Sidney Poitier was (and IS) lauded because what he achieved was significant. He was a black man who won the Best Actor Oscar at a time when roles for black actors, especially leading roles were extremely rare.
Men and women are certainly different, but so were the opportunities for minorities in 60s America, not only in film but education, housing, business and employment.
Mr Poitier was a hero to many young black people who only saw negative representations ourselves on screen...and his win showed that the world had moved on from when Hattie McDaniel won for Gone With the Wind and was forced to sit at a segregated table (and was unable to attend the premiere of the movie because it was held at a whites-only theatre).
I honestly don't think it's reasonable to talk about Sidney Potier's passing without mentioning his achievement in being the first black man to win Best Actor.
It meant something more than just the accolade.
Men and women are certainly different, but so were the opportunities for minorities in 60s America, not only in film but education, housing, business and employment.
Mr Poitier was a hero to many young black people who only saw negative representations ourselves on screen...and his win showed that the world had moved on from when Hattie McDaniel won for Gone With the Wind and was forced to sit at a segregated table (and was unable to attend the premiere of the movie because it was held at a whites-only theatre).
I honestly don't think it's reasonable to talk about Sidney Potier's passing without mentioning his achievement in being the first black man to win Best Actor.
It meant something more than just the accolade.
naomi - // //Just because physiology is different does not guarantee an outcome in a physical contest. //
Even more reason to applaud it when the 'underdog' wins. //
Surely then you are suggesting that there actually is an 'underdog', based on racial profiling, the very point you are arguing against.
Even more reason to applaud it when the 'underdog' wins. //
Surely then you are suggesting that there actually is an 'underdog', based on racial profiling, the very point you are arguing against.
Togo - // I remember a black prerson suing the armed forces for sending him into cold weather places. I hope she doesn't sue us as well. //
One person suing the army for sending him to cold places, clearly against his will, and another person aided by the army in voluntary pursuit of a specific goal are hardly comparable.
One person suing the army for sending him to cold places, clearly against his will, and another person aided by the army in voluntary pursuit of a specific goal are hardly comparable.
SP, it's universally acknowledged that race has played a huge part in our history - and that acknowledgement has to be a good thing because it means the world is moving on in the right direction. However, whilst people insist on banging on about colour, as you do, we will never eradicate racism because that in itself is 'racism'. When will you be willing to move on?
naomi - // SP, it's universally acknowledged that race has played a huge part in our history - and that acknowledgement has to be a good thing because it means the world is moving on in the right direction. However, whilst people insist on banging on about colour, as you do, we will never eradicate racism because that in itself is 'racism'. When will you be willing to move on? //
Where does 'acknowledging that race has played a huge part in our history' stop, and 'banging on about race' start'?
You can't acknowledge the part played by race without talking about it, which rather flies in the face of your BA.
Where does 'acknowledging that race has played a huge part in our history' stop, and 'banging on about race' start'?
You can't acknowledge the part played by race without talking about it, which rather flies in the face of your BA.
naomi24
I'm referring to Sidney Poitier which is what lankeela asked about.
Mr Poitier won his Oscar at a time when doing so as a black actor was groundbreaking. It's something that naturally would be mentioned in his obit.
I don't think I bang on about colour. That may be your impression, but I don't see it that way. Indeed, I only joined this thread when it got to three figures.
I'm referring to Sidney Poitier which is what lankeela asked about.
Mr Poitier won his Oscar at a time when doing so as a black actor was groundbreaking. It's something that naturally would be mentioned in his obit.
I don't think I bang on about colour. That may be your impression, but I don't see it that way. Indeed, I only joined this thread when it got to three figures.
//Who are’us’, Togo?//
That would be the "Us" who fund the M.O.D. through our taxes. We know that you are exempt from such burdens but some of us are not.
Just been to make myself a Toasted English Muffin(white) with Bacon and Cheese(white) filling and a bit of sauce(brown). You know how important the incidental details are. :))
That would be the "Us" who fund the M.O.D. through our taxes. We know that you are exempt from such burdens but some of us are not.
Just been to make myself a Toasted English Muffin(white) with Bacon and Cheese(white) filling and a bit of sauce(brown). You know how important the incidental details are. :))
naomi - // I didn't suggest we don't talk about it. //
And I didn;t suggest that you did.
I simply queried the difference, as you define it, since you seem to be the one laying down the parameters - between 'talking about race' and 'banging on about it'.
SP's point concerns Sidney Poitier, and his relevance to changing attitudes towards race, I hardly think that constitutes 'banging on' about it, as you scold him for doing.
Therefore, as the individual on the thread who wants to be in charge of the differences in approach between 'talking' 'discussing' and 'banging on', I am sure I am not alone in welcoming some guidance on where the parameters lie.
And I didn;t suggest that you did.
I simply queried the difference, as you define it, since you seem to be the one laying down the parameters - between 'talking about race' and 'banging on about it'.
SP's point concerns Sidney Poitier, and his relevance to changing attitudes towards race, I hardly think that constitutes 'banging on' about it, as you scold him for doing.
Therefore, as the individual on the thread who wants to be in charge of the differences in approach between 'talking' 'discussing' and 'banging on', I am sure I am not alone in welcoming some guidance on where the parameters lie.
naomi24
My full quote:
//Anyone who thinks that race doesn't make a difference should consider whether this was true when Mr Poitier was working in the 50s and 60s.//
My point is - race mattered hugely in the 50s/60s.
It matters less now, but we're not living in a complete colour-blind utopia yet.
But to mourn Mr Poitier's passing without acknowledging the doors he broke down as a black actor would be a disservice to him.
My full quote:
//Anyone who thinks that race doesn't make a difference should consider whether this was true when Mr Poitier was working in the 50s and 60s.//
My point is - race mattered hugely in the 50s/60s.
It matters less now, but we're not living in a complete colour-blind utopia yet.
But to mourn Mr Poitier's passing without acknowledging the doors he broke down as a black actor would be a disservice to him.
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