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Sir David Amess Murder Suspect ‘Radicalised After Watching Youtube Videos Of Hate Preacher Anjem Choudary’

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naomi24 | 10:47 Mon 18th Oct 2021 | News
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16450798/david-amess-murder-suspect-radicalise-anjem-choudary/

Why is this stuff still available n YouTube?

Choudary, in my opinion one of the most dangerous men in the country, was recently released from prison and the ban preventing him from speaking in public has been lifted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57878910

And just … why?

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Sorry ellipsis, I thought I was helping you out. I don’t know what you’re talking about either then.
What I'm saying naomi, is that the first duty of any government is to protect its citizens & the wholesale allowance of large numbers of immigrants into Britain, & Europe, people whose values few understand, can only lead to the problems the country in particular & Europe as a whole is facing.
Being 'vigilant' against being attacked is not an answer.

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Khandro, So when you said ‘she embraced the continued immigration of Muslims into ‘his’ country, do you mean he killed her because of that? A yes or no will do.
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naomi: he killed her because he was insane, but in his own bent mind he thought she bore some responsibility for what had happened to Britain (& something had most definitely happened to Britain !).

'Guardian writers suggested that he targeted Cox, a "passionate defender" of the European Union and immigration, because he saw her as "one of 'the collaborators' and a traitor" to white people.'
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That’s a yes then. Ok.
Naomi, according to some, Anjem Choudary is almost on the same level as Tommy Robinson in his heinous beliefs and actions.
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Haha! Yes, according to some I’m sure you’re right, sanmac. :o)
Correct, naomi, and then when you read this again ...

> Yes a white perpetrator/maniac, but somewhere in his warped thinking lurked Islamic extremism - she embraced the continued immigration of Muslims into 'his' country.

... you'll see it's the worst kind of victim blaming. Also an effort to pin part of the blame for her death on Muslims, the thinking going something like: if there was no Islamic extremism, and Jo Cox wasn't pro immigration, then Thomas Mair wouldn't have felt compelled to kill her. So don't just blame Mair, blame Cox and the Muslims as well!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming
Victim blaming occurs when the victim of a crime or any wrongful act is held entirely or partially at fault for the harm that befell them. The study of victimology seeks to mitigate the prejudice against victims, and the perception that victims are in any way responsible for the actions of offenders.
Ellipsis - absolute rubbish! Nowhere am I blaming Cox - are you nuts too?
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In fairness, ellipsis, khandro did say his thinking was ‘warped’ so your victim blaming falls at the first hurdle.
> Yes a white perpetrator/maniac, but somewhere in his warped thinking lurked Islamic extremism - she embraced the continued immigration of Muslims into 'his' country.

Just explain what you were trying to say after the "but" then, Khandro, and why indeed anything after the word "maniac" was needed ...

All actions have consequences: consequences among the sane as well as the insane.
sanmac - // Naomi, according to some, Anjem Choudary is almost on the same level as Tommy Robinson in his heinous beliefs and actions. //

Any examples to back that up?

I for one have never suggested a comparison between them, they are chalk and cheese.

Choudary is a lunatic, 'Robinson' is a gobby chancer.

No comparison that I can see.
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Khandro, I sense that you’re becoming all philosophical on us again. Choudary has said that David Amess may have been murdered because he supported Israel which really amounts to what you’re saying about Jo Cox. I’m sure you’re not attempting to justify it but philosophical pondering often appears to attempt to serve that purpose.
n. I'm talking about cause & effect, the former is the allowance for several decades by successive British governments (mostly of the Left) to oversee into Britain hundreds of thousands of unvetted people whose beliefs are not only different, but in fact contrary to ours, transforming most if not all northern towns (including Batly & Spen) in the mistaken belief that they would somehow assimilate into the British culture without understanding that it is them who wish us to change & many are have been happy to do so, instead of teaching the immigrant children to sing 'God rest ye merry gentlemen', spinster school marms with no understanding of the world were teaching OUR kids to sing Kumbi ya.

Immigrants have been encouraged to celebrate their own identities & if we raise the flag of St George or hold a nativity play we are called racists. The latest here in Germany is that elements in the Muslim community want all references to pigs be removed from school books , so the equivalent of '3 little pigs went to market' is o-u-t out!




> All actions have consequences: consequences among the sane as well as the insane.

Jo Cox's actions to "embrace the continued immigration of Muslims" - your words - had consequences then, did they? But you're not victim blaming, oh no ...
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I don’t think Khandro is victim blaming, ellipsis, and angry accusations do nothing to facilitate understanding. I think he’s examining the reasons behind such atrocities - which is perhaps something we should all do.
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Khandro, I know what you’re saying.
> Yes a white perpetrator/maniac, but somewhere in his warped thinking lurked Islamic extremism - she embraced the continued immigration of Muslims into 'his' country.

I summarise that as:

> Yes a white perpetrator/maniac, but the woman he killed embraced the continued immigration of Muslims into 'his' country.

And that looks very like she carried part of the responsibility for her own death, especially when you add in all of Khandro's other comments, like for example "All actions have consequences: consequences among the sane as well as the insane."

If you, naomi or Khandro, can explain how "somewhere in his warped thinking lurked Islamic extremism" changes my interpretation, I'll be happy to hear it.

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