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ToraToraTora | 12:35 Fri 30th Jul 2021 | News
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Now she's creating divisions by trying to link a gangland shooting with racism!
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16:28 Fri 30th Jul 2021
AH //physical force//
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Abbott is regularly returned for the same reasons as Corbyn is. A combination of champagne socialism coupled with high immigration guarantees a Labour victory.
It is a sin to mock the afflicted, & Diane is seriously ill. I seldom have agreed with her, but she once demonstrated some intelligence (she was a university graduate) when she appeared with M.Portillo on This Week.
I'm not qualified to say, but I personally think she shows signs of dementia. She is no credit to the Labour Party & she should retire asap
danny - // AH //physical force//
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What is your point please?

Are you suggesting that physical force was not employed in Mr Dale's attempt to silence the anonymous protester?
Khandro - // It is a sin to mock the afflicted, & Diane is seriously ill. //

It is only a 'sin' if you believe it to be so as a Christian, and I do not.

Secondly, you have no evidence whatsoever that 'Diane' - (are you personally aquainted?) is ill to any degree, that is purely speculation and you cannot state it as a fact without some evidence.

But then, you have long and consistent form in that area, so it's no surprise that you are bringing your standard modus operandi onto this thread.
AH., Sorry, all my posts are in relation to Mr Dales interview with Ms Abbott in other words th OP.
When she appeared on This Week, Khandro, I remember Michael Portillo raising his eyes to the ceiling practically every time she spoke LOL.
danny - // AH., Sorry, all my posts are in relation to Mr Dales interview with Ms Abbott in other words th OP. //

Understood - thanks for clarifying.
I was brought up to believe that 'It is wicked to mock the afflicted'. Although it is derived from scripture it is embraced by many who are not Christian. To say that it is only wicked if you are a Christian leads to the inevitable conclusion that you consider the afflicted to be fair game. How revealing, and how shameful.
Jackdaw - // To say that it is only wicked if you are a Christian leads to the inevitable conclusion that you consider the afflicted to be fair game. How revealing, and how shameful. //

In your endless tedious eagerness to jump in and derail the thread launching another pointless personal attack on me, you once again fail to read my post, and aim your barb into the bright blue yonder.

I did not say that 'to mock the afflicted is only wicked if you are a Christian', I said it was only considered to be 'a sin' if you are a Christian, which is not the same thing at all.

You then take your entirely made-up version of what I posted, and twist it into a nasty personal attack, based on nothing more than your own urge to attack me for your own perculiar and frankly redundant ends.

// How revealing, and how shameful. //

I could not agree more.
ladybirder - // When she appeared on This Week, Khandro, I remember Michael Portillo raising his eyes to the ceiling practically every time she spoke LOL. //

Me too.

I always found Mr Portillo to be insufferably arrogant and pompous during his time in Parliament, an attitude he managed to physically manifest in his singularly perculiar hairstyle.

Having embraced the hubris of political defeat, he has succesfuuly reinvented himself, and revealed hitherto unknown characteristics as a TV presenter of knowledge, warmth and humour - and mainfested that change with far less attention-seeking coiffure!

He did bring his obvious intellignece and political accumen to This Week, and bore the hideous reality of being manacled to Ms Abbott for the duration of his tenur with wry wit, and as you point out, a number of non-verbal indications of his exact opinion of whatever infantile nonsense was coming out of her mouth at any time it was open.
This thread was derailed long before I chipped in.
Jackdaw - // This thread was derailed long before I chipped in. //

That statement only underlines your approach, which is to derail threads with your tedious off-topic attacks instead of actully contributing to them.

In this instance, every single post prior to yours is on-topic, and responding to posts that deal with the OP.

Until you popped up of course.

Hopefully you can either join in and discuss the point beind debated, or pop off and play somewhere else, taking your nasty nature with you.

Either suits me fine, but I do have a preference ...
In fairness a thread with the title this one has was derailed at the point of departure …
ich - // In fairness a thread with the title this one has was derailed at the point of departure … //

I disagree - I think the OP is valid, and worthy of disucssion, and it seems I am not alone.

I think there is plenty of life left in the discussion - if juvenile nasty-minded de-railers can be persuaded to keep their pointless nonsense out of it that is.
I really ought to know better than to bandy words with the incorrigible and vainglorious.
She must be doing something right to be continuously re-elected by her constituents?
Many people, separated by a common language, indeed - A Comedy (Tragedy ??) Of Err-ers.

Fascinating how so many on this forum showing knowledge of the 'Scriptures', put so much glee into mockery and point scoring, before the practice of the more positive moral ideas in those Scriptures.
Well done Andy for challenging the 'Abacus' scoffers.
Jackdaw - // I really ought to know better than to bandy words with the incorrigible and vainglorious. //

No, you really ought to know better than to make up something someone did not say in order to launch an off-thread personal attack on them.

You continue to do it, you continue to get verbally eviscerated for doing it, and you don't learn.

If you have something that relates to the debate, feel free, but if you are going to continue with this pointless piffle, come back when you have grown up.
Ken - // She must be doing something right to be continuously re-elected by her constituents? //

It may be that Ms Abbott is an excellent constituency MP, I don't know.

I, like others outside her voting area, have only her public profile and pronouncements ion which to form a judgement about her character and abilities.

Frankly, on that evidence, neither of those are shown to be within a country mile of the expected and required levels to speak to the national media on behalf of a major party in the way she does.

It's to their detriment and reputational damage, as well as hers.

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