Tories Lose Safe Seat

[gulliver1]

Chesham and Amersham. . Lib Dems take safe seat of Tories at Byelection

[jim360]

As to the original question -- by-elections are often anomalous, so I'm not inclined to read anything into it. Tories will need to be careful, but probably shouldn't be panicked.

[Jackdaw33]

//A party's leader matters.\\

As Labour and Starmer are finding to their cost.

[jim360]

Indeed, Labour need to elect a leader at some point soon :)

[youngmafbog]

//Sure, but that could equally apply to the other side: and plainly is at the moment .
Which all makes for an interesting time//


Very true, except I'm not sure it is an interesting time. More very frustrating for true labour and true tories. Both sets have been badly let down by the current incumbents.

[gulliver1]

If the Cons got rid of Johnson they could all lose out . His succesor might dispand the Crony Club. That would be a great loss to all those grubby little Blue Fingers in the Tax payer till .

[dannyk13]

Still no answer from Gulliver to post at 10.34.

[ichkeria]

“ On the other hand, it seems difficult to deny that the 2017 and 2019 elections went very differently at least partly because of the change in leadership.”

Yes as I indicated earlier, when Theresa May left office we effectively had a new Tory party take office. Johnson fell over himself to dissociate himself and his new cabinet from the May era.
Not totally unlike the takeover of Labour by “New Labour”

[ynnafymmi]

@13.30.Indeed.If the Labour Party had a proper leader rather the poisonous Jew hater in charge they might have won.As for Johnson,this incompetent,waste of space is a total waste of time.Thatcher wouldnt employ him as a toilet cleaner.Starmer is a total zero.This country is crying out for a proper leader.Same up here in Scotland.Mrs Murrell doesnt know if she is coming or going.

[gulliver1]

Lets face it the only reason Johnson is P/M now.
is because of Corbyn, if Labour had changed leaders before the last G/E they would have stood a better chance.

[ichkeria]

Labour would not have won even with a different leader. As in: if Corbyn had fallen under a Boris bus the Brexit issue would not have gone away.
Had Corbyn never been leader in the first place on the other hand then it’s quite possible Brexit would not have happened and then all bets are off about everything.
All speculation as tho

[gulliver1]

14.11 Ynnafymmi.
"Thatcher wouldnt employ him as a toilet cleaner"
Neither would I, Y/F.

[ynnafymmi]

@14.30.I am nominally a Tory,but looking at the idiots we have in charge right now i just look at these eejits and say to myself where did we get to the point where we are governed by some kind of a substandard bunch of the Monster Raving Loony Party.I despair,i really do.

[gulliver1]

17.38 YNF, You can see through Boris and his Cronies, most of his Fans can't.

[ynnafymmi]

Same up here in Scotland,Gully.Virgin Sturgeon has her own head so far up her own****,only her stilletoes show through.Wouldnt you agree?

[gulliver1]

18.00, LOL, nice one.

[jourdain2]

17.38 ynnafmmi I am in the same position.
Re: Batley. I am a good few miles away now, but knew the area well until 1980 (ancient history I suppose, but I was still around there). I get news info. from local papers and I think that the election is knife-edge. Galloway is a v. imp. part of it. Labour is also playing the 'Jo Cox' card for all they are worth - which will win them votes. If the Tories manage to win then I think it will be a very important indicator.

[Theland]

I lost a safe seat about two years ago in the last rental property. Ended up on the bathroom floor!

[tonyav]

Happy Birthday, Boris
https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/2f65a6b84c4261874ba9d932fa3272ad

Hope you have sent him a card, gulliver.

[Theland]

That only shows the cake, not the many pies he has his fingers in!

[Deskdiary]

I’m no fan of Boris, even less so now the disgraceful way, and with no meaningful reason to delay ‘freedom day’, he has done so, but what Gulliver fails to understand, because he’s politically ignorant, is that it’s possible to be a Tory, as I am, and not support the leader.

It’s the same as being a Labour supporter in the last election but not supporting the disgusting Jew hating Corbyn.