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from the woman who wants to ignore the once in a generation referendum in 2014!
from the woman who wants to ignore the once in a generation referendum in 2014!
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If she is going to hold a referendum she should be prepared to lay out for the Scottish population what it would mean if she was successful. For example how would she fund the Health Service, Police and emergency services. Where would the money come from for her to continue offer free prescription
16:31 Sun 24th Jan 2021
Why would the EU want to 'entertain' one of the most heavily subsidised nations in the world? I have no idea. I believe only France to Tunisia is higher.
Just one look at past numbers - https:/
Just one look at past numbers - https:/
At a bit of a tangent -- I am very nearly at the end of reading 'The Mirror and the Light' (OH bought it for me for Christmas and it has certainly kept me occupied). I understood that France wanted to annex Scotland, but until now I had not really understood the concerted effort that the whole of Europe was exerting against England and the visceral enmity and determination to destroy us as competition. Autres temps, autres mores etc.. but the determination of Europe to bring us to heel is very, very deep-seated. It has really been an eye-opener (and I thought I had a good general knowledge of Tudor politics). I thoroughly recommend it and look forward to your res[ponses in 3 or 4 weeks when you have managed to read it all!
//… so the notion that 'they knew there was a very good chance that the UK would leave the EU' is actually not accurate.//
OK, if not a very good chance (and I will accept that even I believed there was not a very good chance) there was at least a realistic possibility. The SNP portrays the impression that membership of the EU is vital to Scotland’s prosperity. It is said to be critical to them (though perhaps not as critical as one supposes because 38% of Scots who voted chose to leave) and far more important than their membership of the UK. But if that really is the case then surely they should have obviated any possibility of their being dragged out of the EU kicking and screaming by voting to leave the UK. But they didn’t, which makes me think that either they believed the possibility of the UK leaving was so remote as to be not worthy of consideration or membership of the EU is not quite so important to the Scots as the SNP believes.
OK, if not a very good chance (and I will accept that even I believed there was not a very good chance) there was at least a realistic possibility. The SNP portrays the impression that membership of the EU is vital to Scotland’s prosperity. It is said to be critical to them (though perhaps not as critical as one supposes because 38% of Scots who voted chose to leave) and far more important than their membership of the UK. But if that really is the case then surely they should have obviated any possibility of their being dragged out of the EU kicking and screaming by voting to leave the UK. But they didn’t, which makes me think that either they believed the possibility of the UK leaving was so remote as to be not worthy of consideration or membership of the EU is not quite so important to the Scots as the SNP believes.
//Why would the EU want to 'entertain' one of the most heavily subsidised nations in the world?//
The answer to that, of course, is that they would not. But if the possibility of the UK leaving the EU was not a consideration for the Scots in 2014, why would the SNP persuade Scottish voters to forfeit their place in the EU (as part of the UK) in exchange for a possible (but unlikely) place within it (as an independent nation) if and when the EU felt magnanimous enough to allow them in?
I'm sorry, but EU membership is smoke and mirrors when Ms Sturgeon seeks a second referendum. In 2014 she sought to persuade the voters to vote to leave the UK (and hence the EU). So the possibility of leaving the EU then was obviously not an issue. Now she seeks to persuade them likewise because the UK has left the EU suggesting that EU membership is vital for the Scots. So which is it?
The answer to that, of course, is that they would not. But if the possibility of the UK leaving the EU was not a consideration for the Scots in 2014, why would the SNP persuade Scottish voters to forfeit their place in the EU (as part of the UK) in exchange for a possible (but unlikely) place within it (as an independent nation) if and when the EU felt magnanimous enough to allow them in?
I'm sorry, but EU membership is smoke and mirrors when Ms Sturgeon seeks a second referendum. In 2014 she sought to persuade the voters to vote to leave the UK (and hence the EU). So the possibility of leaving the EU then was obviously not an issue. Now she seeks to persuade them likewise because the UK has left the EU suggesting that EU membership is vital for the Scots. So which is it?
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