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Numbers Used To Justify Second Lockdown Were Wrong.

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Deskdiary | 08:51 Fri 06th Nov 2020 | News
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The doom-mongering numbers from last Saturday, used to justify this unnecessary second lockdown, have proven to be false.

Is this down to an innocent mistake, incompetence or something else?

I can't help but think it's down to, as Theresa May said, "figures are chosen to support the policy rather than the policy being based on the figures".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/05/covid-graphs-wrong-death-toll-will-not-surpass-first-wave/

Even the United Kingdom Statistics Authority is telling them not to hoodwink the public.

https://osr.statisticsauthority.gov.uk/news/osr-statement-regarding-transparency-of-data-related-to-covid-19/
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British government lying to the people to justify the mess they've made of everything, and I mean everything?

Pshaw!
I read yesterday that Chris Whitty admitted he had misled everyone with his covid graphs and figures.I am afraid my confidence in the handling of this crisis and the misinformation that is constanly been fed us is leading to general non-compliance by the public and who can blame them.Just baffle with B.S. and they will do as their told.
It appears to me that ther is a sinister agenda in the back ground and covid is used by National and Local government to push through unpopular policies on the strength of fear and lies using vastly exaggerated figures as an excuse.
I dont believe the many experts advisers and hangers on set out to deceive whitty and intended he deceive the public

osr - just says that the data and processed data should be simple and understandable. If I cd do that I wd be prime minister

the reproof ( if it be that (!)) is nothing like what is being doled out to Trump - "the president made more unsubstantitated statements today..."
to which I point out there is a strange silence

People dont know what a model prediction is. The word has been changed to 'projection', The hacks are adding the obvious phrase = if nothing is done

Even here the great NJ was unable to cope with the model of a car crashing into a wall. If you put the brakes on and it doesnt crash - HE says it invalidates any modelling at all, I say if you change the facts you change the predicted ( oops projected that is!) outcome

It is as tho you can spend the money coming in at the end of the ,month. No money at the end of the month then, you must change your spending plans. You dont go and burn down the bank
This information was on the front page of the Telegraph a few days ago, plus the fact they didn’t factor in any positive effects from introduction of the tier system and an inflated R number was used. This information was available before the MPs voted on lockdown but was never really picked up by the rest of the media, so it appears lockdown was a foregone conclusion.
Lockdown 2 was decided long before any figures from Saturday. The figures from the last fortnight prove that the second wave of the pandemic is here. An error in one result does not mean Lockdown 2 is unjustified.
September 12there were 9 deaths
November 4th there were 492 deaths.

The number of deaths is obviously going in the wrong direction. You can explain away more cases found because we are testing more. But the rising number of deaths is not so easily explained. I have heard it said that the deaths were bound to rise in the cold winter months, thing is, it hasn’t been cold yet.
It wasn’t just one error though was it. For anyone who has studied Statistics, the way all the figures relating to this pandemic have been given to the public is, in my opinion, reprehensible. The worst one is continually quoting numbers of deaths, instead of death rates per head of population.
Its a fraud (thats me speaking not Trump).

I know of several people who have gone for testing,seen the queues and turned back home or gone back to work.

Followed by a POSITIVE result!!!!
agchristie, are you saying that these people showed a positive result following a subsequent test, or that they were shown as positive without being tested?
Positive result WITHOUT being tested Danny.

Believe you me,it is happening....
What I find even more worrying is that the government seemed to accept these figures, without checking them, independently for themselves. I feel that the tier system was never really given a chance, even though it appeared to have the desired effect. One has to wonder whether it is the scientists now running the country, since they were against the tier system, which Boris seems to have favoured.
AGC Thank you , that is indeed rerehensible and should be investigated.
she is saying they were not tested and then recorded as positive
(and really as a matter of law should take it further (*))
there is a difference between Charles Moore ( the editor of the DT that is!) saying something is crap and the author wearing sack cloth and ashes and admitting that what he had said was crap

but I agree - the data may be wrong but when corrected it doesnt make a difference
but still - " that is very tatty of you Dr Whitty !"
or naughty naughty Dr Warty !
or
its a banana splitty Dr Whitty

(*) ere sarge we avva little old lady saying that the tests were fraud but the data protection act doesnt allow her to give names!

I have got into a lot of trouble by taking on trust
" Mrs Mopp darn da road - well her son the daft one - the one we called Dopey at skool . He's still at homes and- well SHE says that HE ...."
and of course Mrs Mopp says - I didnt say that
oh hold it that could happen
X is a super spreader and is contact with A - and later tests positive
A goes for a test and says O sad it and leaves
and A is still informed that they have to isolate .....
// The worst one is continually quoting numbers of deaths, instead of death rates per head of population.//

chrissakes margaret
people - let alone 90% of AB dont know the difference beteween a death rate ( time involved per head of pop - or not!)
and a case fatality ratio - total deaths/ total cases wivvit

and something pretty well has to be lost in translation
//Even here the great NJ was unable to cope with the model of a car crashing into a wall.//

That's news to me.
The whole of Europe and wider is being affected by the 2nd wave. Whatever the figures are, they are on the rise when you look at the wider picture and lockdowns have been enforced in other countries.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
This Corona malarkey is a total Farce made up numbers, unreliable test kits
the whole world is locked down over a bloody flu,
death certificates have been falsified many many times and have been proven by relatives of the deceased to be falsified many many cases in the UK and the world have come out and spoken about this,
this scam this scam this plandemic comes under agenda 21 the globalists are now calling it sustainable development, a totarialism government / state under a new world order under a One World government.
It will be known as the great reset the coronavirus it's just an excuse to start this,
here is a link from the main man himself Mr klauss

https://youtu.be/swfyslAaz2o
as I've said in my previous threads you can all laugh but please look at these threads in 1 years time and tell me I'm wrong

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