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ToraToraTora | 11:54 Thu 24th Sep 2020 | News
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Well done SKS, weed the anti British out.


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Nasty piece of work that one. I see COB was in there voting against too, no surprise there I guess.

I do actually feel a bit sorry for Sir Kier. He has an almost impossible task and is stuck between a rock and a hard place.
"Dear Prime Minister

We are writing to you in connection with the Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill, due to receive its second reading on 23 September.

We believe that this Bill has dangerous and harmful implications, for the reputation of the armed forces and for the safety of British troops who risk their lives in overseas operations.

This Bill purports to protect soldiers. In reality, it risks making them more vulnerable.

The Geneva Conventions form the cornerstone of International Humanitarian Law and exist to protect all parties. Accountability is an essential part of that.

Vexatious claims are an important issue, which should be addressed. We find it disturbing, however, that the Government’s approach in Part 1 of this Bill creates a presumption against prosecution of torture and other grave crimes (with only rape and sexual violence excepted) after five years. We believe that the effective application of existing protocols removes the risk of vexatious prosecution.

To create de facto impunity for such crimes would be a damaging signal for Britain to send to the world. This Bill would be a stain on the country’s reputation. It would increase the danger to British soldiers if Britain is perceived as reluctant to act in accordance with long established international law.

We urge the Government to reconsider these ill-conceived plans.


Field Marshal the Lord Guthrie
Chief of the Defence Staff, 1997-2001

Gen Sir Nicholas Parker
Commander in Chief, Land Forces, 2010-2012

Rt Hon Sir Malcolm Rifkind QC
Defence Secretary, 1992-95; Foreign Secretary, 1995-97

Rt Hon Dominic Grieve QC
Attorney General, 2010-14

Bruce Houlder CB QC
Director of Service Prosecutions, 2008-2013"

Are those signatories, "anti-British"?
TCL, well I would class Grieve & Rifkin as that.
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yes, if they are dressing this bill up as they appear to be. Our forces have a difficult enough job without our home grown prannies running around trying to bust them years later for something that was necessary at the time. This is just another sop to the WWW and her money grubbing parasites.
What is WWW?
Looks like this Phil Shiner ars...sorry,rectum,has a lot to answer for.When does he get out of prison?
I'm guessing 'Wicked Witch Whittome', though no doubt TTT will be along to inform us what WWW denotes. Apart from World Wide Web, of course :-)
'Sacked' from an unpaid job. Non news story.
Hardly “anti-British” as had been pointed out.
Labour’s strategy as to abstain in a bill seen as flawed. Her position was untenable given she voted against and did not resign first
I wonder if Labour MP Nadia Whittome actually read it

Conflicts of choice are often vexatious.

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