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Lockdown 2?
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"Mr Johnson is expected to give Britain one final chance to prove it can follow the rules and suppress a second wave" - clearly the public can't follow the rules so is LD 2 now inevitable?
"Mr Johnson is expected to give Britain one final chance to prove it can follow the rules and suppress a second wave" - clearly the public can't follow the rules so is LD 2 now inevitable?
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//Boris announced easing of lockdown on 24th June when daily new cases of Covid-19 was 591. New daily cases now are 4,422.// And the conclusion is? If it's that the lockdown should have continued, consider this: it lasted for about three and a half months. Since then it has emerged that: - It has cost the country twenty years' economic growth. - Tens of...
13:08 Mon 21st Sep 2020
I doubt the government could get a lockdown to stick, given how precariously close we came to complete economic collapse the first time round.
Add to that the endless confusion of 'rules' and 'advice' that is seeing a public reaction of shoulder-shrugging and generally 'carrying on' - there is, in my view, no chance whatsoever that another national lockdown would have support, and I don't believe the government will risk it.
I sat through the portentous and much trumpeted 'Eleven O'Clock Broadcast' and got a couple of boring suits spending twenty minutes telling me something I already know - cases are rising, or something i have worked out for myself - if cases keep rising we are in deep trouble - but not a word about what they are going to do about it.
Situation normal then.
Add to that the endless confusion of 'rules' and 'advice' that is seeing a public reaction of shoulder-shrugging and generally 'carrying on' - there is, in my view, no chance whatsoever that another national lockdown would have support, and I don't believe the government will risk it.
I sat through the portentous and much trumpeted 'Eleven O'Clock Broadcast' and got a couple of boring suits spending twenty minutes telling me something I already know - cases are rising, or something i have worked out for myself - if cases keep rising we are in deep trouble - but not a word about what they are going to do about it.
Situation normal then.
In June we debated whether they were easing lockdown too early.
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//Boris announced easing of lockdown on 24th June when daily new cases of Covid-19 was 591.
New daily cases now are 4,422.//
And the conclusion is?
If it's that the lockdown should have continued, consider this: it lasted for about three and a half months. Since then it has emerged that:
- It has cost the country twenty years' economic growth.
- Tens of thousands of jobs have been lost and hundreds of thousands more will follow.
- The travel industry has been all but destroyed and will be lucky to survive at all.
- Much of the hospitality industry has failed to resume business.
- Children lost about four months of education.
- The government borrowed more in a month than it planned to borrow in a year.
- Tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people with non-Covid serious illnesses have seen their treatment delayed or ditched altogether and the death toll from that will almost certainly exceed Covid.
- Tens of thousands of patients waiting for surgery and other treatment for chronic illnesses have had those procedures postponed, leaving them in often severe pain. (Some people were actually extracting their own teeth to relieve toothache).
So, with that in mind (and bearing in mind that what I have mentioned above is what I can quickly think of off the top of my head), how long would you have proposed the lockdown should have continued?
New daily cases now are 4,422.//
And the conclusion is?
If it's that the lockdown should have continued, consider this: it lasted for about three and a half months. Since then it has emerged that:
- It has cost the country twenty years' economic growth.
- Tens of thousands of jobs have been lost and hundreds of thousands more will follow.
- The travel industry has been all but destroyed and will be lucky to survive at all.
- Much of the hospitality industry has failed to resume business.
- Children lost about four months of education.
- The government borrowed more in a month than it planned to borrow in a year.
- Tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people with non-Covid serious illnesses have seen their treatment delayed or ditched altogether and the death toll from that will almost certainly exceed Covid.
- Tens of thousands of patients waiting for surgery and other treatment for chronic illnesses have had those procedures postponed, leaving them in often severe pain. (Some people were actually extracting their own teeth to relieve toothache).
So, with that in mind (and bearing in mind that what I have mentioned above is what I can quickly think of off the top of my head), how long would you have proposed the lockdown should have continued?
"And how much do you think lockdown2 will cost?"
It would collapse the economy and far more people will die from Concer, herat attacks not being treated. The 'cost' would be monstrous and end of life as we know it. For what to save a few old people who would have died anyway to keep the bed wetters and scientists using the public as a giant lab.
Lockdowns do not stop a disease such as this. All you do is lower the cases until you come out of it then, as you have little immunity in the community it simply flares up again. It really isnt difficult to understand this.
It would collapse the economy and far more people will die from Concer, herat attacks not being treated. The 'cost' would be monstrous and end of life as we know it. For what to save a few old people who would have died anyway to keep the bed wetters and scientists using the public as a giant lab.
Lockdowns do not stop a disease such as this. All you do is lower the cases until you come out of it then, as you have little immunity in the community it simply flares up again. It really isnt difficult to understand this.
// the virus has no feet, people carry it around... //
they do. and the experts tell us that cough and sneeze fallout goes a good deal further than 2m. and masks do little more than provide re-assurance. if the public are expected to contain the virus, the rules will need to be a good deal more extreme for public compliance to be effective.
they do. and the experts tell us that cough and sneeze fallout goes a good deal further than 2m. and masks do little more than provide re-assurance. if the public are expected to contain the virus, the rules will need to be a good deal more extreme for public compliance to be effective.
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