Five Weeks Of Lies

[teacake44]

For five weeks now Matt Hancock has insisted that there wasn't a shortage of PPE, nearly every hospital and care home in the country was saying there was, he also insisted that it was a logistical problem only, and that was with 20 thousand army personal drivers ready to deliver. When the army joined us, we were told, this is what the army are brilliant at ( logistics ) ?

Today he says he wished he had a magic wand to produce PPE. When will Mr Hancock face up to the fact that the UK was oh so slow off the starting block, and the cost of that, was peoples lives, especially NHS lives. When will he start telling the truth, ( never).

They've also been telling us that we don't need to wear a face mask,(now their thinking about it), but waiting for the science to tell them. Common sense tells me that face masks can help stop the spread of the virus, if they didn't, then the rest of the world wouldn't be wearing them, or nurses wearing them in hospital or care homes, ( when they can get them) We all know about the top of the range mask that they need to wear in ITC, but the rest of the nurses are wearing bog standard face masks.

There are now UK manufactures pulling out all the stops to produce PPE, they say they have be ignored by Matt Hancock for weeks now, even after making it known to him that they could make what was required. How many more lives need to be lost before they supply the nation with face masks like every other country is doing.

I've changed my mind about Mr Hancock,( give someone a chance to get sorted,) he's had five weeks, and all we've had is five weeks of lies. Whatever advice he or the government give out, I for one will take with a pinch of salt, and do my own thing.

[ichkeria]

Trump is playing politics here to a shocking degree. I suppose in an election year that is inevitable to an extent but it’s so blatant in his case. He can see his one selling point, the economy, going down the drain.

[naomi24]

Jim, //N dishes it out but can't take it, it seems.//

I can’t think what you mean. I stand my ground - but unlike you, I do it without expecting ‘empathy’ for my personal circumstances from those with opposing opinions. As Mamyalynne says, //Call someone out if you must but not in that snide side swiping and frankly cowardly way.//

[Deskdiary]

Some of my comments last night were out of order; it is unlike me to rise to the bait in an anonymous internet forum, but last night I did and I let myself down.I was wrong to say the things I said about his job, and for that I apologise.

Without question ZM has an odd fixation with me, and his arrogant, sneering, sarcastic and self-important posts become tiresome after a while, but notwithstanding this, I was stupid to rise to the bait.

It won’t happen again.

[AuntPollyGrey]

I doubt that confession will do much good deskdiary. You are a marked man now -Gness has called you 'nasty'. You have the black spot.... :-)

[Zacs-Master]

Deskdiary ‘Some of my comments last night were out of order’

Followed by:
‘ his arrogant, sneering, sarcastic and self-important posts ’

Followed by:
‘It won’t happen again’

It just did! Apology accepted tho!

[AuntPollyGrey]

Zacs I really would like to get to grips with you on an open forum LOL! A big fish in a little Sea of Twee can soon turn into a tiddler in the real world.....

[Zacs-Master]

Speaking from experience are you?

[jim360]

Sure, N. You've never been snide or snipey or anything like that, oh no...

Good for a laugh, at least.

[naomi24]

Still not putting your money where your mouth is.

[jim360]

I don't think that expecting empathy is unreasonable. We should care about what other people think but also try to understand why they think that way. It's surprising that my calls for empathy are regarded as somehow deficient, therefore.

[ToraToraTora]

well this thread has expanded somewhat, has anyone manage to track down a "lie" yet?

[naomi24]

Jim, why do you expect anyone here when responding to your posts to take your personal circumstances into account - or indeed to have the remotest interest in them? Those of us who don’t air our laundry in public have no such expectation - and nor should we. You can't expect special concessions.

[gness]

Deskdiary. I don't know what goes on between you and Zacs but I appreciate your apology to him over the comments about his job.

I don't have the worry about future employment but I can understand how those who have been placed in this sudden and unexpected position must be feeling.

[jim360]

I'm not referring to me personally, Naomi. I'm saying that in general you should maybe give more care to why people think the way they do. That you do not says more about you, I suggest, than it does about anybody else. A little more empathy never hurt anybody, and it's interesting, to say the least, that you're so...combative(?) at the suggestion.

In any case, if you are complaining about perceived sniping then maybe you should kindly refrain from it yourself, when -- and it certainly is a when -- you are so quick to do likewise at every opportunity.

[naomi24]

Yes Jim, in that conversation you were referring to you personally. I give empathy where it’s due - and that is not in the middle of an argument about politics. As for sniping, I am not in the habit of waiting until what I consider to be a bit of support arrives and then punching my opponent in the back and scarpering before they can hit back - as you do. I still don’t know what you meant by your earlier remark - and I guess I never will - which says much about you. Unless you want to explain yourself that’s all I have to say on the subject.

[jim360]

I don't think there's ever a time when empathy isn't due and worthwhile.

Let's hope that we never have to have this meta-conversation again. It's boring for both of us I imagine.

[Spicerack]

Zacs-Master

//Same for Spicey too. And the beaches have re-opened.//

Nothing to do with Trump. He didn't close them. He didn't reopen them.
And US death rates are between half and a quarter of most European countries. Why would you want to shout about them?
I feel like Father Ted explaining perspective to Dougal, so you'll have to forgive me if I'm a little short with you at times, Zacs.

[Zacs-Master]

You’re forgiven, my diminutive friend.

[jim360]

// And US death rates are between half and a quarter of most European countries. Why would you want to shout about them? //


True today, but not really comparing like with like. In two weeks US recorded deaths have almost quadrupled, compared to a doubling in recorded deaths in Spain, so the US is playing a sad game of "catch-up" right now.

[gness]

I think you've accidentally put an extra r in that sentence, Zacs.. :-)