Breaking News , Terrorist Related In South London

[Bobbisox1]

https://news.sky.com/story/man-shot-on-street-in-streatham-south-london-reports-11924768

[andy-hughes]

Spicerack, you don't find the subject funny, and you're not playing?

Where is your evidence that I do, and I am?

[naomi24]

Pixie, If that genuinely is the case... the point is "why?". And I promise you... it is not because of a book.//

I've told you why. Since you have no knowledge of the book you're not in a position to promise me that it is not influential. Tell a Muslim it doesn't influence his life and his actions and you'll be insulting him.

[naomi24]

SevenOP, //It is about the 'interpretation' of a book//

Jihadists don't interpret their book - they follow its instructions.

[sevenOP]

"Jihadists don't interpret their book - they follow its instructions"

In which part of the Koran does it instruct Sudesh Amman to stab people in Streatham ?

[andy-hughes]

Plus adding their own unique up to date psycopathy on top!

[naomi24]

It doesn't mention Streatham ... or Paris come to that. It does, however, mention killing non-Muslims.

[andy-hughes]

Seven - anyone can bend anything to say what they want it to say.
Charles Manson got the go-ahead to murder Sharon Tate from listening to Helter Skelter by The Beatles!

[andy-hughes]

Plus, in the US, one music fan shot himself and another blew his own face off, and later killed himself because of 'messages' on a Judas Priest album, claims later disproved at trial.
If you want something to justify what you do, you can find it, anyone can, not just mad Islamists.

[retrocop]

Your two posts at 1730 and 1734,
I don't suppose you can offer any further evidence with regards to these bizarre incidents. Like narcotics playing a part may be?

[retrocop]

Always useful to be appraised of the true and full circumstances.
https://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?p=Two+Judas+priest+fans+shoot+themselves&fr=yfp-t&fp=1&toggle=1&cop=mss&;ei=UTF-8

https://charlesmansoncasestudy.weebly.com/toxicology.html

[pixie374]

Naomi, i am not the slightest bit bothered what might erroneously be perceived as "insulting". Only in what is true. I am not familiar with the book, you are not familiar with psychology. Your opinions are no more valid than mine.

[andy-hughes]

I am not quite sure of the point you are making here retrocop - ?
In every case of abnormal behaviour that leads to death, you don't have to look far below the surface, and in some cases, just looking at the surface is sufficient, to find deeply troubled backgrounds going on
That in no way negates my point - if you want a 'reason ' to commit violence, you can find one.

[pixie374]

Retro, there are loads of examples, and it would take forever to go through each one. But, as you rightly suggest, these are not generally people who are in their right minds at the time. Which is kind of the point.
https://apnews.com/aefbee98e24fe272d6ec695f2ddcc5cc

[andy-hughes]

In the case you cite Pix, if I were Mr Osbourne, I'd be wondering what sort of father keeps a loaded gun in his home where his depressed teenage son knows where it is, and can access it.
If we are widening the circumstances as Retro wishes to do, let's widen them all round shall we?

[pixie374]

I think retro is pointing out that sane, stable people don't randomly kill themselves due to an outside influence, and I think that is probably right... although I'm not sure that was what he wanted to prove xx

[pixie374]

... an American one? ...

[andy-hughes]

Indeed Pix, retrocop appears to be trying to argue against the points you and I are making, in fact he is merely underlining them with additional background details.

[naomi24]

Pixie, my posts on this subject are not opinions.

[fiction-factory]

I think you're wrong Andy- pixie and the rest of us can have opinions, but they will usually be wrong, whereas naomi thinks (knows) she knows the truth- no doubts, no ifs or buts, just the facts