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Peter Pedant | 01:11 Fri 06th Dec 2019 | News
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Yeah the shock is that no one has posted this as news.
whereas if Little bo peep has been kicking her sheep there are about five posted

and the question is: with Clinton they had an early vote - basically are they anywhere near a conviction and they had not - so the whole thing was abandoned early

DO you think they will do the same with Trump - have an early vote - recognise they cant ever get a conviction and have an early shower?
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I did hear or see a suggestion that if the Senate vote were in secret, there would be the possibility of Trump being found guilty.

As the vote is not in secret and the Republicans control the Senate, a guilty verdict is unlikely since it needs a two-thirds majority to succeed.
It isn't a shock or news. They've been impeaching Trump every day since 6 months before he was elected.
doubt the Democrats will ever give up trying.

I heard a discussion on the radio where one of the guests mentioned that P. Trump's ratings were still as high as when he won the vote. I have no idea if that's true or not tho.
The Democrats have been trying to impeach him since before he got elected and have openly said they won’t stop.

I have listened to quite a bit of the public impeachment evidence and tbh I see nothing there. Whatever is said the Dems shout out very loudly it is evidence of guilt. Even when there is nothing. They flip from one narrative to another in the Hope a scatter gun approach will catch something, anything they can spin into evidence.

Although I am a fan of Trump so it might seem like I am not looking properly... there does seem to be literally zero evidence.

The mainstream media has blasted the liberal Democratic narrative everyday for over three years and it has just made the people who only watch MSM convinced he is guilty. Even with out evidence. When the narrative is that relentless there is little that can be done to sway people towards the truth.

In the end Trump cannot win this war. If the Senate reject impeachment it will be seen as a cover up. If he is impeached and acquitted it will be seen as a cover up. He could shake hand with Gandhi, mother Teresa and god himself and they would be screaming he was only using them for personal gain.

This partisan process has damaged the country and it’s standing in the world. They hold hearings when he is representing the country and they diminish the US’s standing by doing so. The Democrats have divided the country and set the world against a president who has done more for the US economy than any other president.

Trump is a straight talker who had little to no experience in politics and that has been his downfall and his appeal. They don’t like him simply because he is a Republican and he isn’t doing what they want.
There is masses of evidence to convict Trump several times over.
But fundamentally the process is political, and much more so now than in the days of Nixon and Clinton, when senators were more prepared to take a moral stand.
As there seems not the slightest chance of any republican voting against him, the trial is bound to end in his favour.
Many republicans don’t like Trump because they see him still as a Democrat. But they like the current Democrats even less
// I heard a discussion on the radio where one of the guests mentioned that P. Trump's ratings were still as high as when he won the vote. I have no idea if that's true or not tho. //

That doesn't surprise me. If you still liked him at that point, then nothing he's done since or ever will do is likely to change your opinion.
//I heard a discussion on the radio where one of the guests mentioned that P. Trump's ratings were still as high as when he won the vote. I have no idea if that's true or not tho.//

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
His ratings have gone up and down since he was elected as you’d expect.
His ratings have held up during the impeachment enquiry: however although they stand at their joint highest ever, it’s still only 46%, which is by far the lowest “high” of any president since they started measuring these things in the 1930s. Being such a divisive figure that isn’t surprising: to break through that he’d need to start attracting significant positive ratings outside his own party. And at most approval (as opposed to actual support) has barely ever reached 10% there
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good moaning gentlemen
thank you for your thoughtful replies

perhaps the population in american thinks
good on you Donald, I wish I cd make as much money out of foreigners that you do ....

No one should profit from the Roman state - Seneca I think AD 70

prime ministers who have benefited
are Bliar - Shri picked up £50m for their noisy retirement - oh and Shree has a judges pension ( much moolaah)

Tharcher - the Boy Mark did well out of the Arab contracts, as it was sensitively done - rich wife who divorced him ( Greenshield stamps heiress, who called it a day after he was accused of treason)

H H Asqujith assigned 1/6 of his fortune to the treasury whilst he was treasury minister i the belief that his frenz wd follow suit
They didnt

Boobz Castle ( Health and DoSS) ended up in a council house
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// He could shake hand with Gandhi, mother Teresa and god himself and they would be screaming he was only using them for personal gain.//
that is surely because his aides would charge them for meeting him?

Clinton ( for it was he) stumbled on a wedding in one of Trumps golf glades in Scortland and....
cdn't resist "working the room"
[ thank y'all. thank you cor coming....etc]
his aides explained that it was automatic and natural for him
I don’t think there is masses of evidence to impeach. Spin has a lot to answer for. Spin spin spin and that spin becomes urban truth.

If I remember rightly there was only one witness that had first hand knowledge of the supposed offence and he testified that Trump had explicitly said ‘I want nothing, no quid pro quo’.

Spin spin spin and you get so dizzy you don’t know what is truth any more.
The Democrats seem to have been totally preoccupied with impeaching the president since he took office, millions of $ have been spent & thousands of hours wasted. Is this why they were elected? shouldn't they be involved in real grown-up politics?
Trump will not be impeached, full-stop (or period).
He will be impeached, but not removed from office as a result
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// He will be impeached, but not removed from office as a result//
I agree that impeachment refers to the trial or process and it will go onto that

it is a state trial and as such, is political - as in Strafford 1620s

Half way thro Clinton - they said - let us have a little vote and see how it is going
no prospect of a 2/3rds majority ( as now) and they all went home early - I think they could usefuly have a very early vote ( since we know they will vote on party political lines) and save money
Sorry for asking this Peter,but are you writing in some kind of code or something?A lot of things you write seem to be a new esperanto.
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No No
ask away
I am flattered you got to the bottom of the page

There is this guy and he is very High Up and he lives over the water, They call him Mr President. and he does what he likes and who he likes but that is another story
and some other people dont like what he does
and he does - [like what he does]
and so they are saying that he has to stop being president
and the president no he says he likes being president

and that is just about where we are up to....

In arabic? fi ra'is fe amereeka. arrrreis huwa esmuhu Donald Trump, wahwa shadeed qawi .......( er I think that is enough A)

but many thanks for reading
Yes, he uses code Immy
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Latin?
capax imperator nisi imperasset, dux rei publicae sit anguilla in herbis ....

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