Second Series Keeping Faith Bbc 1 This Evening

[Paigntonian]

Loved the first series.

[Zacs-Master]

Yes. Very good. It gets (or got) a bit soap opera-ish in parts gut generally very good.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Yes, a cut above most of the recent series.

[rockyracoon]

Already set it to record. Loved the first series.

[ABSpareEditor]

I have moved this thread into the category "Media & TV".

[Rosie29]

As there was a previous second series in Welsh shown a few months ago do you think two series 2 were made ? Or - horror of horrors is one of them dubbed?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Oh, the song's rather nice isn't it?

[THECORBYLOON]

ROSIE, there are two versions, one filmed in Welsh, shown on S4C and the other in English, shown on the BBC.

[Rosie29]

Thanks Corby.
I dreaded the English version would be dubbed

[Ken4155]

Heard Eve Myles being interviewed o the Steve Wright show on Radio 2, last week. She explained that both 1 & 2 were made in Welsh, then English. She further explained that it often felt as if they were making 2 entirely different shows as the English version would be shown on the Beeb, therefore without adverts, while the Welsh version would have the 'natural semi-cliff hangers' that lead to the adverts.
Good opening first episode, i thought.

[Patsy33]

We enjoyed 1st series but couldn't get into this 2nd one.

[vetuste_ennemi]

The cost of making two versions is going to be roughly twiice as much, in which case I am puzzled by the economics, Ken.

A series like this needs a BBC budget, So where did S4C get the money to (presumably) buy the Welsh version?

PS: I was working on TV audience measurement systems when S4C was born (about the same time as Channel 4, I think). The Welsh audience for S4C was negligible even in Wales, and ususually invisible at the UK level. And what percentage of the Welsh population is monoglot Welsh, monoglot English or bilingual with a strong Welsh language preference? A briefer way opf asking the question is: how much advertising revenue does the Welsh version generate?

[THECORBYLOON]

From the S4C website,
"Since April 2013, 90% of S4C's income comes from the license fee in agreement between the S4C Authority and BBC Trust. This has been agreed until 2022. Around 8% comes from the UK Government's Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) until 2018. S4C also has some powers to generate its own commercial income, for example, through advertising sales, providing around 2% of the channel's funding."

[vetuste_ennemi]

Thanks, Corby.

Does that mean S4C is a charity funded by involuntary contributions posing as a commercial organisation?

[Mamyalynne]

Full history here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S4C

[vetuste_ennemi]

I could never do maths at school - or even simple arithmetic. But clever clogs ought to be able to compute the per capita subsidy S4C viewers receive from from non-Welsh speaking citizens in or outside of Wales.

"90% of S4C's income comes from the license fee in agreement between the S4C Authority and BBC Trust."

That's what I call a deal. Why weren't the S4C negotiators invited to join David Davis' team from day one?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Thanks for the Wiki link, Mamya.

I think it proves (though I could be wrong) that S4C is a boutique channel living off public subidy rather than being a commercial channel which pays it way through advertising revenue.