Transgender

[Deskdiary]

For the first time in my life I've used LOL.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6896091/Hospital-apologises-transgender-woman-dressed-Mrs-Claus-mistaken-man.html

Come on....even the most achingly right-on amongst us on AB, and there's loads, must find this LOL. I more than LOL'd, I bloody roared with laughter. He was wearing an Ann Summers Mrs Clause outfit fer christ's sake.

What the hell is somebody who is clearly a bloke doing pouting like that?

Am I wrong to find this hilarious?

[spathiphyllum]

i think a lot of trans people will have "a deformed physical characteristic" spicey lol.

[ludwig]

The person in question clearly looks like a man, so the nurse can be forgiven for thinking they were one.

It's natural to make assumptions about other people's gender based on their appearance. There's no point someone dressing up as a woman and then getting upset because people think they're a woman, any more than there is getting upset because people don't think they're a woman.

[spathiphyllum]

I don't think the person got upset because they thought she was a man.. i think it's the comment "erghh" showing public disapproval of, and disgust.

[Calicogirl]

Yeah clearly as I said in my very post some trans people appear more their trans gender than others, and sometimes people's perception won't tie in with that, that will happen, it's unfortunate when it does, but that's just life. Saying 'Euuurrrggghhh' is not however accidental, it's not acceptable, it's deliberately rude, confrontational, designed to hurt and embarrass and needs dealing with.

[ludwig]

// i think it's the comment "erghh" //

Yeah maybe, but sometimes you don't have time to think things through and stifle your initial reaction.

[ludwig]

// Saying 'Euuurrrggghhh' is not however accidental, it's not acceptable, it's deliberately rude, confrontational, designed to hurt and embarrass and needs dealing with. //

There's no evidence of any of that. As I said, it's more likely an initial uncontrolled response.

[spathiphyllum]

a nurse should be better trained for such interactions with the public then Ludwig and understanding different patients needs and preferences.

Maybe a training issue?

[spathiphyllum]

I agree the nurse didn't mean to offend and hurt with her response, it was more of a knee jerk, my point is, nurses should not have knee jerk reactions like that which could offend patients or public.

[Calicogirl]

So if I worked in a shop say Ludwig and a guy asked for help with something and he turned around and was sporting an EDL T shirt I'd be all fine and dandy going 'Eurrggghh' would I as a ' kneejerk reaction'?
Come on, anyone working with the public needs to be savvy enough not to do things like that .

[AB Editor]

// On the AB registration form under "gender" there are only two options. //

We should look into perhaps adding an "Other" option.

[ludwig]

// So if I worked in a shop say Ludwig and a guy asked for help with something and he turned around and was sporting an EDL T shirt I'd be all fine and dandy going 'Eurrggghh' would I as a ' kneejerk reaction'? //

Not actually a valid comparison, but yes, that'd be understandable, and perfectly fine by me.

[wolf63]

I thought that the AB form had three options - Male, Female and Not Set

[spathiphyllum]

That Ed, or remove the option entirely.

[jno]

that's right, wolf, I have availed myself of the Not Set option on account of being in Middlesex. But there's really no need to ask the question.

[ummmm]

Absolutely agree, Cal, when I was a teenager a trans came into our pub. I couldn't help but stare. My nan took me outside and told me off explaining everyone is different!

My granddad used to say that everyones money is worth the same so everyone deserves respect.

[dannyk13]

I think the three options that are already available are quite sufficient

[spathiphyllum]

the three options don't suit everyone. If the option "other" was included, then those four options would.

I think just scrap it all. Why does it matter if we iz boys girls or somewhere in da middle.

[Calicogirl]

Because more options have to be better than fewer and having a gender option takes away choice not adds to it. x

[ummmm]

Some views do depend on gender, especially in B&S and R&D, so knowing someone's gender is helpful at times.

[woofgang]

I never understood why AB wanted to know