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ChillDoubt | 18:02 Wed 03rd Apr 2019 | News
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47798717

Well, given that a lot of the targets used by HM Forces are of a running Russian soldier it’s not a million miles way from what they’re used to.
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//I suppose you happen to forget the GI's who were shot as POWs by the SS during the Battle of the Bulge Campaign PP. Unlike you not to bring up the Malmedy massacre for a change. //

which of course I DO recollect and was looking up tonight but thought it was unsuitable - yup unsuitable

One of Daddys co-POWs was a witness to the earlier Wormhout massacre 1940. by the adolf hitler standart regiment and no one was indicted for that one as it was successfully argued all the crims/perps had died on the Russian front in 1942
The same regiment 'DID' Malmedy Jan 1945
and the incredible account of their trial and .... acquittal is here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmedy_massacre_trial

Peiper and his freunde [ the shooters/perps/crims] were successfully able to plead that they had been er tortured and had had confessions beaten out of them. They were acquitted on appeal. Their abusers were German national interrogators who had fled early to Amerikee. NOT an event to celebrate
Lucius Clay ( US general) was unable to refute allegations of duress and mock executions and russian roulette committed by his men, and then in the end admitted that ALL the confessions were affected
Baldric,I don't have a crystal ball.
To quote Manuel: " I say nothing. "
someone mentioned Malmedy
honest
narfin to do wiv Jezza but hey this is AB !

Malmedy was the basis for the truly awful but popular film franchise saints and sinners
( one of the survivors is a RAF pilot shot down, even tho the real massacre were the members of an american observer corps. worse than the Gt escape + motorcucle)
> I always find it funny that 99% of the ‘we’ couldn’t summon the courage to even walk through a recruitment office doorway.

Let's ignore the fact that I don't know if you have, and you don't know if I haven't, and just focus on the real issue which is ... British armed forces are supposed to be better than that.
I'm no fan of Corbyn but I thought this was appalling. It's not funny or appropriate when a Labour MP was assassinated 3 years ago.
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Let's ignore the fact that I don't know if you have, and you don't know if I haven't, and just focus on the real issue which is ... British armed forces are supposed to be better than that.
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I’d say the real issue is that as Paras they’re not exactly choirboys but are indeed of the Orwellian quote: We sleep safe in our beds etc.
Just a minor prank over a politician who denied that Russia had anything to do with Salisbury and as a terrorist sympathiser would prefer to see them coming home covered in Union flags over his ‘comrades far and wide involved in armed struggle’.
> a Labour MP was assassinated 3 years ago

Yes, there is that ...

I am also no fan of Corbyn, in fact very far from it, but ... he's the democratically elected leader of the Opposition and a lot of people seem to quite like him.

https://youtu.be/i1zLoG6YeA4

> Just a minor prank over a politician

Just a minor prank that could cause a sizeable number of the British people who voted for the party led by this guy to lose a bit of faith in the impartiality of their armed forces. Nothing to worry about really, especially when the country is in the relative state of calm that it is now ...
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Just a minor prank that could cause a sizeable number of the British people who voted for the party led by this guy to lose a bit of faith in the impartiality of their armed forces
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As I said, given who he’s chosen as his bedfellows you’d be hard pressed to find ANY member of HM Forces who’d care a jot about him.
He’s made his position clear on HM Forces, by their very nature they’re bound to show disdain for someone who sympathises more with the terrorists who aim to kill them.
I realise Corbyn has wacky political views but is it really accurate to say that he would 'prefer them to be coming home in Union flags?' I haven't seen any evidence that he actually wishes death anyone. He seems more like a naive kind of pacifist.

There's plenty of legit things to criticise Corbyn for without having to make up ridiculously extreme stuff. If the services exist to protect us, then that protection is meaningless if they aren't impartial. A Labour MP has been murdered very recently and the security services have recently eliminated a plot to assassinate Corbyn himself. This is not tolerable behaviour.
Oh for goodnes sake, the right-onness of some folk on here is sickening.
Do you honestly think he is the first 'target'? And while you sit there in the comfort of you r home protected by these men prepared to put themselves in danger, ask your self this "Would I be able to step up to the mark?"

Bet the answer is no.
A Labour MP was shot to death, ymb, and Darren Osborne openly said he was planning to kill Corbyn. I'm so dreadfully sorry that the 'right onness' of people disagreeing with you upsets you. That freedom the services protect is worthless if it doesn't include freedom to criticise the services.
Yeah right. I think you have lost perspective.

Do you really think the armed forces are going to kill COB?
No, but I do think the Thomas Mairs of this world will take this as an endorsement and that it violates their impartiality, which is very important. I also think it makes us look like a banana republic.
It's really quite remarkable that "I don't think soldiers should shoot pictures of the Leader of Opposition" somehow gets translated into "I hate the forces."
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I realise Corbyn has wacky political views but is it really accurate to say that he would 'prefer them to be coming home in Union flags?
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Over his terrorist friends, which is what I’d posted?
You bet your life he would.

Jeremy Corbyn consistently voted against use of UK military forces in combat operations overseas.

He has consistently voted against military action against Daesh.

Jeremy Corbyn voted against the continued deployment of UK armed forces in Afghanistan in 2010.

He also voted against the establishment of a no-fly zone in Libya in 2011.

Further reading:

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-corbyn-on-northern-ireland

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-munich-attack-wreaths-palestinian-terrorists-antisemitism-a8489731.html%3famp

I’ll bet not even he was vaguely surprised that HM Forces used his image on a range.






None of that is consistent with Corbyn 'preferring soldiers to come home in Union flags', Chill. I realise Corbyn's views and associations are wrongheaded and often very distasteful or stupid, but he is the leader of the opposition. Soldiers should not be firing shots at his image however much they privately dislike him.
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Kromo,
He has to literally be dragged to the Cenotaph every year and preferred going to Glastonbury when invited to an Armed Forces Veterans event.
HM Forces are in no doubt about his disdain for them so it’s little wonder they’d reciprocate.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/23/jeremy-corbyn-might-not-authorise-strike-against-isil-leader/amp/
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Gove sums up his character perfectly from roughly 6 minutes in here:


//Soldiers should not be firing shots at his image however much they privately dislike him.//

Never mind Krom,it's only JC after all.He has dodgy views so he can be good bait for a bit of fun target practice.What larks eh?

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