Another Hillsborough Style Witch Hunt?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47540271

[ToraToraTora]

Martin McGuinnes fired the first shot, for gawd's sake!

[jim360]

There wasn't a first Hillsborough-style witch hunt though was there?

[ToraToraTora]

of course there was.

[anotheoldgit]

Once again so called 'British Justice' stinks.

Well done to the UK Defence Minister Gavin Williamson and the government for supplying legal and welfare support to soldier F.

[Peter Pedant]

what where the authorities cover up certain knowledge of their own wrong-doing ?

and then peddle stories that the victims threw themselves on red hot spikes or some such other tall story - shot themselves - blew themselves up - poisoned themselves or whatever - ( incredible stories swallowed whole by juries made up of Abers on an off-day )

like you AOG - I certainly hope not !

[Peter Pedant]

oops 3t not AOG
sozza
so difficult to tell them apart these days

[ToraToraTora]

AOG: "Once again so called 'British Justice' stinks." - that's what happens when you fill the CPS with TROB popinjays.

[Peter Pedant]

// Well done to the Gavin Williamson and the govt for supplying legal and welfare support to soldier F.//

it is their duty you silly old sausage you !

otherwise they would be saying they thought he was guilty as well

[Peter Pedant]

// when you fill the CPS with TROB popinjays.//

nooooooooo - appts are made according to civil service criteria - the awful DPP Allison Saunders seems to have been a disgraceful one-off

[ludwig]

I'd wait to hear the evidence before assuming it's a witch hunt.

[ToraToraTora]

McGuinness fired, the soldiers fired back, end of.

[ummmm]

Oh dear!

[agchristie]

3T from the link:-

//The Saville Inquiry heard evidence of shots being directed at troops but "on balance" a soldier had fired first//

[ummmm]

ag,,,,don't confuse him with facts!

[anneasquith]

Oh my God ,. Arrogance and ignorance .

[ludwig]

// McGuinness fired, the soldiers fired back, end of. //

I suspect there's a bit more to it than that. Being a soldier, even in a combat situation, doesn't absolve you of any and all responsibilities. If for example you shoot an unarmed civilian in the back as he's running away from you, and then wander up to finish them off with a shot to the head, that's not acceptable.

That's nothing to do with this case of course, just an example. As I said, let's hear the evidence.

[JF85]

Soldiers and police are trained differently for different tasks. Neither should be used as a substitute for the other.

[ichkeria]

We’ve got Ballymurphy to come too don’t we... ?

As Ludwig says, surely we should wait for the evidence before shooting our mouths off.
I remember this at the time, listening to Fr Daly on BBC NI news, and my dad, who was an Orangeman and a Black man (no not that sort) being pretty appalled.
There maybe is an argument that after 47 years it’s time to draw a line, but then there’s the relatives to consider. And that applies to relatives of terrorists too.
It just emphasises how daft were the comments of the NI Secretary the other week. Did she win a competition on the back of a crisp packet to get that job? You have to wonder.

[douglas9401]

"There maybe is an argument that after 47 years it’s time to draw a line, but then there’s the relatives to consider. And that applies to relatives of terrorists too."

Good luck. They don't do 'moving on'.

[goodgoalie]

Is nobody going to mention all the IRA bombers and murderers who were let out of prison as a result of the Good Friday Agreement - the doors were just about thrown open and they were waved out. And what about the 'letters of comfort' that were received by IRA men and others, promising that they would not be prosecuted?