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Khandro | 17:12 Sat 02nd Feb 2019 | News
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If you think that the EU is undemocratic now, you ain't seen nothing yet, and another reason for a sharp exit?
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/top-dog-selmayr-is-bad-news-for-britain-and-worse-for-europe/
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How's it worse ? Before we got no cooperation and would need to leave under no-deal, after we'll get no cooperation and will need to leave under no-deal.
I hear a chorus: "Go, just go....."
The member states of the EU WANT us to stay, although gord knows why!
Simples. It's for our money.
The more that we allow, and report, what the EUSSR attack dogs continue to bark at us the more that "ordinary" people realise just what a deranged group of sociopaths they all are. The latest ignorant rant from a dedicated globalist and would be dictator. Even the Remainiacs are beginning to recognise the danger. A bit like the Uruk-ha as Gandalf sped down the hill with the Roharrim at Helm's Deep. The latest YouGov figures suggest that the Remain camp is fast cringing and cowering at the prospect of "No Deal" Emile, and that just “18% of Remain voters are members of Die Hard Remainers group who will accept nothing less than staying in the EU”.



‘the Remain camp is fast cringing and cowering at the prospect of "No Deal" ’

Nope. We’re all just waiting to say ‘we told you so’.
...and people like ZM still want to stay in! How bad would it have to get for them to not want to be governed by Sir Humphrey?
What, bad like a major car maker deciding they don’t want to build a new model here, you mean. Or Sony moving its electonics HQ to the Netherlands? Or Companies like Vodafone and Visa strongly considering relocating offices (and jobs) to mainland Europe?
The FT reported in mid 2018 that the economy was 1.2 per cent smaller than it would have been without the Brexit vote, a £24bn hit to the economy, or a cost of £450m a week or £870 per household per year. That wasn’t written on the side of any bus tho.
yada yada, ZM, you haven't explained why you prefer to be ruled by unelected foreign bureaucrats.
And he never will TTT.

No remainers will accept the EU is fast changing and we have no idea what it will look like in the near future.
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Zacs; //What, bad like a major car maker deciding they don’t want to build a new model here, you mean.//
... and Airbus being asked to scaremonger at the request of the government by arch-remainers Hammond & Co.?

Nissan had already announced a tail-off in sales of its cars - so have Honda and most European car manufacturers -- nothing at all to do with Brexit but many other factors are involved; no one wants diesels, cars today get increasingly more reliable and last far longer than they did a few decades ago, plus many people are waiting to see what the new generation of electric cars are going to be.
The modern mantra is, if your business is failing, blame Brexit.
ToraToraTora yada yada, ZM, you haven't explained why you prefer to be ruled by unelected foreign bureaucrats.

I have. Many many times.
where? I've never seen it.
You have. It goes something like this:
The EU aren’t the tyrants you make them out to be.
The UK is one of the most prosperous countries in the world, in large part due to the favourable trade arrangements with the other 27 nations.
You fail to explain anything practical which a return to sovreignty will bring. But you’ll call me asking for an explanation ‘nailing jelly to the wall’ which anyone with an ounce of nous can see is you avoiding the question because you have no answer.

Ring any bells?
//The UK is one of the most prosperous countries in the world, in large part due to the favourable trade arrangements with the other 27 nations. //

The UK has always been, if not the most successful, then certainly one of the most successful trading organisations in the World. Well before we were tricked into a federalist pyramid scheme experiment, and will be again once we extricate ourselves from the dead hand of EUSSR protectionism that is designed to benefit Germany and France only.
Power grab? I found this report from The South China Morning Post on my "travels". There will be, as we keep telling the Remainiacs, no ability to usurp British sovereignty or influence soon. As long as we keep our nerve and resolve.

""Why Brexit may be the least of the EU’s worries.
Vasilis Trigkas says the blow of the UK leaving the union will be considerable, but it is only an exacerbating factor. In a European parliamentary election year, economic stagnation and a turn towards populist politics are far more worrisome. Possible future scenarios about the EU abound, yet it will hardly take a Cassandra to call out the ominous omens. By mid-spring, Brexit – orderly or disorderly – will shave 15 per cent off the EU’s gross domestic product.If Brexit is successful for Britain, it will set a precedent for other EU members to follow, further undermining the grouping’s cohesion; If chaotic, it will damage the EU’s economy and could provoke a geopolitical clash between Germany and the UK, which could lead to the unravelling of the post-second-world-war intra-European pacifism. This does not mean Panzers and Spitfires; expect instead vitriolic rhetoric, punitive regulations and covert actions culminating in an unprecedented “war by other means”. And if Brexit is not enough, the exasperated EU populace will head to the polls in May. There, the “nationalist internationalists” – the Le Pens, Orbans and Salvinis, spearheaded by America’s most apocalyptic export to Europe, Steve Bannon – will be well positioned to turn the political balance in the EU parliament upside down. To do so, they do not need to win over the majority of voters across Europe; they just need to win enough votes to form the second-largest parliamentary coalition. If they succeed, they will undermine the socialist alliance, the current second-largest coalition, and be able to constrain the agenda of the conservative European People’s Party. In addition, the political battleground for the appointment of the new commission – the EU’s all-powerful executive body – will be tangled. Even if there is agreement on portfolios and new commissioners by early autumn, the ideological mix of the new commission is likely to erode its effectiveness and further boost Euroscepticism. This is not where EU problems end, however. The euro, the project that started it all and turned Europe from a sui generis union of postmodern sovereign states with an integrationist dream to militant blocs of creditors and debtors, has become the sword of Damocles hanging over the heads of Eurocrats. In the past decade, the euro zone has lurched from crisis to crisis. The wealth divergence between the centre and the periphery has widened, and a banking crisis that started in Frankfurt and Paris has been simplistically framed as a crisis of the welfare state and profligate governments of indolent southern Europeans. The subsequent austerity drive amid deflation has not only killed jobs but also the political centre, and soon maybe the EU itself.""
“The centre cannot hold”

W.B. Yeats. The Second Coming
My friend's mother used to go to MI5 (MFI) for DIY materials.
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