Chuck The Lawyers In The Chokey?

[sunny-dave]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46781619

They might soon decide they can find the runaway killer, if the alternative is being in the slammer themselves?

They've remained in touch all through the trial and after - even co-ordinating an appeal using public funds - talk about brass-necked.

I just do not believe they can't produce him when required - bang 'em up until their memory improves.

[Buenchico]

Knowing a person's telephone number doesn't tell you where they are. Even though it's possible to find out to within a fairly small radius) where a mobile phone has been used, that won't help if the person has used an online anonymising service to redirect phone calls to a number (which has been provided by that service) to a mobile phone that's probably in another country.

[sunny-dave]

So they refuse to reperesent him then - they knew well before the trial that he was planning a runner.

Ah - but that would mean loss of income, which is anathema to your average brief ...

[Buenchico]

The 'cab rank rule' means that lawyers aren't allowed to refuse to represent clients.

[sunny-dave]

I think "but he's done a runner" probably overrides that, Chris?

[sunny-dave]

And I'm old and cynical enough to actually not believe they have not known his location at least at some points in the process.

[sunny-dave]

Then when they've done with the lawyers, the plods could work their way round his network of 'friends' - a night or two in the cells for "Routine Questioning by Sgt Armtwister" might concentrate a few minds there too?

[Peter Pedant]

yeah ! cocktail stick under their fingernails until they cough!

martinis all round! - seems a shame to waster cocktails sticks after all ! - and I dont fink thingernails - fingernails!

[Peter Pedant]

they arent here to do the police's job if the plods are too idle ( er sorry busy with terrorism et al) to do their jobs themselves

they - loi-loi - fellaz in wigz
honestly I think some of my posts arent understood by the clear English majority which are the usual suspects on AB

[sunny-dave]

I agree, PP (at least I think I do) - it does just seem that no-one is trying very hard ...

... but perhaps the lawyers are the fattest cats drinking from this particularly corrupt saucer?

[Peter Pedant]

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he didnt turn up
and I am not sure ( reverting to propa English Dave) about trials in absentia
having done a works disciplinary with the accuser/complainant in absentia. - - the adversarial process suddenly becomes - one-legged or lop-sided which is not in the interests of us punters ( when it is our turn)

as for the defence saying - here is my client - Arrest him! I would hope not

[Peter Pedant]

yeah fat greedy cats
actually take it from me - there is not fat on legal aid
and that doesnt mean that when one sees a fat greasy voluble lawyer in a bar mocking his client feeble and limp defence (think Kevin Spacek) that one should nail his hand to the counter and then do the cocktail stick trick....

[Togo]

“When cops are on the job they love lawyers like lions love hyenas, only minus the mutual respect.”

Reed Farrel Coleman

[ToraToraTora]

SD me old china, you're expecting morals from Lawyers? tut tut!

[andy-hughes]

sunny-dave - They might soon decide they can find the runaway killer, if the alternative is being in the slammer themselves?

They've remained in touch all through the trial and after - even co-ordinating an appeal using public funds - talk about brass-necked.

I just do not believe they can't produce him when required - bang 'em up until their memory improves. //

I am sure you believe that your simple solution has appeal, and no doubt it does, but it also flies in the face of due process.

The defendent is entitled to appeal under law, and as such, he is entitled to legal representation.

The fault lies with the law, not the lawyers, and we are advised that changes are going to be made to avoid a repetition.

[youngmafbog]

Change the law so they cannot do it, then bang them up if they break the law.

But as TTT points out lets not expect too much from your average brief. Bent as a nine bob note most of them when it comes down to the folding stuff.

[Peter Pedant]

I do wonder if we have a wider readership....

Interview in the Times today
Defence Lawyer saying - our function is NOT to turn our clients in. Everyone knows that

and later - people can instruct you and you dont know where they are ....