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Who Is Nearer The Reason For The Stabbings On The Streets Of London, The Momentum Group Or Harriet Harman And The Victims Families?

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anotheoldgit | 10:38 Thu 08th Nov 2018 | News
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6365489/Harriet-Harman-attacked-claiming-drill-music-knife-crime.html

/// Miss Harman said: ‘They believe the internet is being used to plan and to incite violence and believe drill music and videos are used for criminal purposes.’ ///

/// Hard-left Momentum activist said knife crime is being caused by austerity. ///

/// Left-winger Anita Patel said ‘This is not a black-on-black crime. This is about austerity, zero-hour contracts and cuts. ///

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Khan in 2015.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/sadiq-khan-i-d-do-everything-in-my-power-to-cut-stop-and-search-a2924706.html

from the article.
\\The Met dramatically reduced the number of random stop and searches in 2012 in an effort to improve relations with black and ethnic minority communities.//

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/09/mark-duggan-case-theresa-may-stop-and-search-reform

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\\We do have a particular concern about our relationship with younger members of the black community. That's why since I became commissioner I have significantly reduced the use of stop and search. We rarely use the powers [section 60] we have to do blanket searches across an area, and concentrate on searching where we have intelligence to suggest we should."//

so they want to avoid upsetting young black teens but dont care if this means they may be killed.

AOG, it can’t really be a ‘dig’ when you confirm I’m correct.

Thanks, by the way.
Bit of a rum choice here: one says it's caused by music, two say it's austerity. All the alternatives are unmentionable/out of bounds, so the latter must be right and we just have to pay - we have a choice of one.

Knife crime: stagger school leaving times, say London doctors
Growing numbers of children becoming victims, with under-16s most in danger between 4-6pm

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/06/knife-stagger-school-leaving-times-say-london-doctors
Never thought I'd see the day when I would agree with Harridan Harperson.
//Knife crime: stagger school leaving times, say London doctors//

Ah, the power of lateral thinking.
I think the 'pick and answer' idea is way too simplistic for such a complex problem, and in margins all of the above are correct. For sure lack of strong, male role models do leave teenagers somewhat compassless, and gangs take up that position who are in turn motivated by drugs and in turn by the money those drugs provide. Austerity has helped no-one, unemployment amongst the black community is far higher, along with single parents, and struggling mothers trying to keep things together find themselves overwhelmed and powerless to escape areas where knife crime and gangs are prevalent. This is not per se because they are black however, this is because of blatant inequality, magnified by poor economic trends, social isolation, poorer educational results etc etc etc.
It's very easy to say ' this is a black problem' it's not, it's a social problem which affects black teenagers far more than white ones for a whole host of reasons. Cure the race related social ills and you will cure the prevalence of young black people dying, but that is not an easy or quick process, and will take a generation or more to mend, but we can't simply dismiss this as a 'black problem', it's simply not, it's a problem with our society as a whole which has led to it appearing to be.
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/// For sure lack of strong, male role models do leave teenagers somewhat compassless, and gangs take up that position who are in turn motivated by drugs and in turn by the money those drugs provide. ///

There are many fatherless white families also, so why isn't there also a similar problem of white on white gang stabbings?

/// unemployment amongst the black community is far higher, along with single parents, and struggling mothers trying to keep things together find themselves overwhelmed ///

Could it be that it is much easier and profitable dealing in drugs than to seek legitimate employment like most do?

/// and powerless to escape areas where knife crime and gangs are prevalent. ///

You mean the mainly black areas, isn't this what we are trying to address?

/// This is not per se because they are black however, this is because of blatant inequality, magnified by poor economic trends, social isolation, poorer educational results etc etc etc. ///

Poor white families face the same problems, but don't react in such a way.

/// It's very easy to say ' this is a black problem' it's not, it's a social problem which affects black teenagers far more than white ones for a whole host of reasons. Cure the race related social ills and you will cure the prevalence of young black people dying, ///

/// Of course this is a black problem, otherwise we would see the same number of white on white stabbings, ///

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