Cake Off?

[douglas9401]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45789759

The road to common sense is paved with tenners.

[spathiphyllum]

what a pavlova

[Spicerack]

Rockrose
'noone knew they were a 'Christian bakery'

Hahaha.

[Rockrose]

Baldric - not my link - I can give the facts as I was there - it was a week.
Look and before you all start I am not telling lies or twisting facts or anything else - I am not nasty or horrible so please don't join just to tell me that.

[Rockrose]

Spicerack - what is so funny about that?

[AuntLydia]

// Baldric - not my link - I can give the facts as I was there - it was a week. //
You were where? The bakery? The High Court?

[Rockrose]

Aunt Lydia give it a rest please.
I have explained several times that I was there when he took the call - it was a week after he had placed the order at our recommendation at Ashers.
Do you want me to spell it out for you another way?

[Baldric]

Rockrose, Sorry I thought it was your link, I wouldn't dream of being horrible or nasty to you,

[AuntLydia]

// I have explained several times that I was there when he took the call - it was a week after he had placed the order at our recommendation at Ashers//

Seriously I did not know this. You certainly haven't made that known on this thread, so I haven't seen it 'time and time again'.

[piggynose]

ROFL? WHY OFFENSIVE?

[douglas9401]

Colleague makes bid for largest slice of cake, if it ever arrives.

[ToraToraTora]

chill: "In all seriousness I don’t see why they couldn’t have just gone to Asda with their own design and had it made there, thousands of other people manage to on a weekly basis. " - you miss the point, this is the Gay activist movement. they deliberately seek out places to offend then overreact when those places duly oblige.

[ToraToraTora]

SP:"To those who say that no business should be forced to perform a service - they HAVE to." - err no, the basic tennet of retail is that the management reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. So if they don't want to serve people wearing red jumpers on Tuesday they don't have to and they don't even have to explain why.

[-Talbot-]

err no, the basic tennet of retail is that the management reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.



err no, TTT

[sp1814]

No TTT

Business must abide by the law.

They can refuse service, but they cannot take the the law into their own hands.

The bakery did no refuse service under provision of the law.

The B&B owners did.

And in this context tenet is sepelled ‘tenet’, not ‘tennet’, which isn’t even a word.

[sp1814]

TTT

A company may instigate a red jumper rule because clothing is not covered by the Equalities Act.

However if a business refused to serve someone based on their race, marital status, sex, religion, sexuality, age etc - they will be breaking provisions as laid out by the Act.

[Bazile]

The bakery had no objection in serving the guy , because he is gay .
What they objected to was baking a cake with that message on it ; and would have so refused if he was straight .

The same objection would have been there to anyone , whether straight or gay , with such a commission

So , where is the discrimination ?

[sp1814]

Bazile

That's the point I made earlier.

[Deskdiary]

^^^and you absolutely were right to make the point.

The bakers have not discriminated - they just didn't like the message.

The B&B owners did discriminate - they refused a room just because the couple were gay.

The former is absolutely fine as confirmed by the Supreme Court (despite Rockrose deciding they were wrong) whereas the latter in my view is entirely wrong for the reasons discussed many many times in the past.

[Deskdiary]

Just re-read my post which could be read differently from the intent....to clarify in my view the B&B owners were entirely wrong in their action.

[ToraToraTora]

SP 14:41, yes only if they explain why which they do not have to, the error here was to explain why.