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This Is Spain Since Pedro Sánchez’S Socialist Party Came To Power In June.
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It's strange that the invasion by the Moors of southern Europe is somehow seen as beneficial because of the developments they are said to have bestowed upon the area. The British did likewise across large swathes of the world, bringing unimaginable order and development to places in Asia and Africa. By contrast, today's British people are expected to feel...
20:16 Wed 15th Aug 2018
It's what they get up to that matters.
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And yes it could happen here, in fact it already has.
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And yes it could happen here, in fact it already has.
so selling pirated goods on the streets is legal or they turn a blind eye, they cannot work legally? and at the same time x amount are let in on humanitarian grounds, seems they have made a rod for there own backs. i don't think they get unemployment benefits..so what to do with them, youth unemployment in spain is very high, and they are educated, these migrants are not educated, you could educate them if possible ie language barrier, i suppose they could learn spanish, and then maybe? find work or deport them.
If I sell counterfeit goods on eBay I'll be up before the beak smartish.
Some invader strolling along a Spanish beach repeating looky looky and punting the same knock-off tat is a 'street vendor' looking for acceptance in a place he has no right to be from folk who just want to get a tan in peace is completely different?
Hard to follow this modern world and its fickle ways.
Some invader strolling along a Spanish beach repeating looky looky and punting the same knock-off tat is a 'street vendor' looking for acceptance in a place he has no right to be from folk who just want to get a tan in peace is completely different?
Hard to follow this modern world and its fickle ways.
sandyRoe
/// Has this just happened in the last two months? ///
Just about, due to Spain's acceptance of economic migrant boat people, that Italy has now refused to take in.
/// Has this just happened in the last two months? ///
Just about, due to Spain's acceptance of economic migrant boat people, that Italy has now refused to take in.
PP is attacking this practice now in an effort to gain some of the popularity (no pun intended) it has lost in recent years mainly through corruption within its ranks. Nobody except AOG is claiming that it is a new practice. The photo could have been taken 20 years ago when I was in Barcelona except that the names on the Barça strips they are selling would have been different.
Perhaps AOG has never been to Spain.
Perhaps AOG has never been to Spain.
It's interesting to note that the Spanish don't see it as an invasion at all:
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"It's interesting to note that the Spanish don't see it as an invasion at all:"
You mean the Spanish government does not see it as an invasion. I don't think anybody has actually canvassed the Spanish people for their views. A couple of weeks back a large rubber boat was beached at El Canuelo on the Costa del Sol and around thirty African men disembarked and legged it up the beach pursued by border guards. The expressions on the faces of the sunbathing locals and tourists may have suggested they didn't view the travellers as tourists pulling in for afternoon tea and cakes.
No European government seems to treat the current migration phenomenon as an invasion. And that's the problem.
You mean the Spanish government does not see it as an invasion. I don't think anybody has actually canvassed the Spanish people for their views. A couple of weeks back a large rubber boat was beached at El Canuelo on the Costa del Sol and around thirty African men disembarked and legged it up the beach pursued by border guards. The expressions on the faces of the sunbathing locals and tourists may have suggested they didn't view the travellers as tourists pulling in for afternoon tea and cakes.
No European government seems to treat the current migration phenomenon as an invasion. And that's the problem.
Garaman
/// Nobody except AOG is claiming that it is a new practice. The photo could have been taken 20 years ago when I was in Barcelona except that the names on the Barça strips they are selling would have been different. ///
I never said that street vendors or even beach vendors is a new practice, but what I did say was that Spain is now accepting economic migrants, that Italy has refused to take in, that is a new practice.
And yes I have been to Spain many times, mostly on the southern coast, and yes I have seen a few street and beach vendors, but I have never seen them swarming onto the beaches from vessels, as if it was a modern day D Day.
/// Nobody except AOG is claiming that it is a new practice. The photo could have been taken 20 years ago when I was in Barcelona except that the names on the Barça strips they are selling would have been different. ///
I never said that street vendors or even beach vendors is a new practice, but what I did say was that Spain is now accepting economic migrants, that Italy has refused to take in, that is a new practice.
And yes I have been to Spain many times, mostly on the southern coast, and yes I have seen a few street and beach vendors, but I have never seen them swarming onto the beaches from vessels, as if it was a modern day D Day.
NJ 'I don't think anybody has actually canvassed the Spanish people for their views'
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Perhaps D Day was an over exaggeration, but the method is similar, and could be followed by many more, watch this space.
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Read my article link. There seems to be an assumption that the Spanish are up in arms about this, which the article clearly refutes and goes further in saying that the xenophobia needs to stop.
“Far-right nationalist and xenophobic parties need to focus on the differences between ‘us’ and ‘them’, with ‘us’ being Spaniards and ‘them’ being everyone else,” she said. “But that doesn’t exist in Spain; that feeling is very weak because the common Spanish national identity is weak. That’s mainly down to historical reasons and the legacy of the Franco regime, which spent 40 years talking about national identity, the exceptional character of the Spaniards, and using symbols, flags and anthems the whole time.”
“Far-right nationalist and xenophobic parties need to focus on the differences between ‘us’ and ‘them’, with ‘us’ being Spaniards and ‘them’ being everyone else,” she said. “But that doesn’t exist in Spain; that feeling is very weak because the common Spanish national identity is weak. That’s mainly down to historical reasons and the legacy of the Franco regime, which spent 40 years talking about national identity, the exceptional character of the Spaniards, and using symbols, flags and anthems the whole time.”
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