National Action - Right Wing Terrorist Threat

[Gromit]

There has been reluctance in some quarters to accept the danger of this Neo-Nazi organisation. Hopefully the testimony in Court this week will dispel that.

// The alleged leader of a neo-Nazi terrorist group urged one of his subordinates to assassinate the former home secretary Amber Rudd, a court has heard.

Renshaw detailed how he was going to murder [Labour MP] Ms Cooper with a machete before taking hostages in a pub.

Another defendant, Matthew Hankinson, said Renshaw should target a synagogue – even if there were children inside – because “all Jews are the same, they’re all vermin”. //

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/national-action-neo-nazi-uk-terror-plot-labour-mp-machete-amber-rudd-renshaw-lythgoe-a8397521.html

Dangerous men (targetting women) hopefully a long prison will result.

[kvalidir]

...aaaaaaand we've brought it around to Muslims. Well done AB, well done :/

[ToraToraTora]

SP: "I still don’t understand why the Far Right have such a problem with Jews" - I think you mean the far left don't you?

[jackthehat]

LoL.....it'd be hilarious if it wasn't so darn predictable......and boring.

"Don't like a thread?"
Just run on, shout "Muslims" and run out again.....
And then watch the ever-decreasing circles develop until the thread becomes utterly pointless and simply a platform for those who know 'stuff' to tell us.....again.

And repeat......

[Canary42]

Well said Jack

[Spicerack]

jackthehat ///Weelllllllll......correct me if I'm wrong, but pleading guilty would seem to be the fore-runner to being found guilty, wouldn't it?///
Alright then. It could be a sign of other things, Jack. In this chaps case, one look at him would tell you 'he's not the full shilling', as we say in medical parlance.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// Renshaw has admitted preparing an act of terrorism and threatening to kill police officer Victoria Henderson, but denies membership of a proscribed organisation. ///

/// Co-defendants Garron Helm, 24, of Seaforth, Merseyside, Mr Hankinson, 24, of Newton-le-Willows, Merseyside, Andrew Clarke, 33, Mr Lythgoe, 32, and Michal Trubini, 35, all of Warrington, also plead not guilty to membership of a proscribed group. ///

/// Mr Lythgoe additionally pleads not guilty to encouraging murder. ///

[sp1814]

TTT

No - I mean the Far Right.

As far back as I can remember, the Far Right have targeted Jewish people, and it’s never made sense to me.

I suppose we could understand it with the National Front, because they styled themselves after Nazis (remember the salutes).

But that was decades ago - why on earth do the Far Right have so many members who hate Jews?

Have you seen the BNP Facebook pages? And their Twitter threads? They really hate the Jews.

To me, I think “Jews have been through enough - time to give them a break”.

[-Talbot-]

To me, I think “Jews have been through enough - time to give them a break”.


Who (not what ABers) is that aimed at, sp,?

[sp1814]

jackthehat

//Just run on, shout "Muslims" and run out again.....//

Brilliant. That hits the nail on the head.

Aren’t you tempted to open a question on the News thread which has nothing to do with Muslims, and then set a timer to see how long it takes someone to shoehorn the subject in?

It would work best with a subject that has nothing to do with Islam...like:

Scientists discover three new planets hiding in our galaxy:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/exoplanets-latest-new-infant-planets-found-scientists-astronomy-a8397001.html

[-Talbot-]

If these people are found guilty of plotting to kill anyone, then they should be banged away for a long time.
Even if none of them actually had the balls to carry out the killing.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// To me, I think “Jews have been through enough - time to give them a break”. ///

I couldn't agree more, they don't cause any trouble in this country, but it would make a change for you and others to also place the blame at Islam, which hates the Jews with vigour.

[sp1814]

AOG

Then why are the Far Right targeting them?

Why the hatred on their forums?

Have you read some of the stuff on the BNP twitter threads?

Once ag

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// //Just run on, shout "Muslims" and run out again.....// ///

I don't run, I come back again and again.

Seems I have hit a raw nerve, but when it comes to the hatred of Jews, lets seek a level playing field shall we?

But with some on here its all blame the Tories, blame the far-right, but never Islam, that religion that cant be criticised, no matter what evil things are carried out in it's name.

[sp1814]

It’s so confusing to us.

I actually get why Muslims and Jews hate each other (yes, it’s bilateral) - thousands of years of political, territorial and religious antipathy...but AOG, why do the Far Right hate the Jews?

Have you got any idea?

The rest of us are simply trying to get our head around it.

[ludwig]

There's an article on the history of anti-semitism in Wikipedia sp. That'd be a good place to start.

I don't think many of these neo-nazis actually know why they hate jews tbh. They just learn that they're one of the groups of people they have to hate when they join the neo-nazi club, so they read up on the relevant hate literature and propaganda, and soak up the garbage spouted by their peers, so they can spout it themselves.

[sp1814]

AOG

//but when it comes to the hatred of Jews, lets seek a level playing field shall we?//

Hell no!!!!

We don’t want a level playing field. We don’t want a playing field at all.

This may be where we differ - I don’t want an equilateral, balanced hatred of anyone.

I want to discover why the Far Right hate Jews.

[sp1814]

ludwig

It must be so confusing for the Far Right...they hate both Jews and Muslims.

It must be like rubbing your stomach and patting your head simultaneously.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Then why are the Far Right targeting them? ///

I just do not know, I didn't even know that the BNP still existed, I only know that they are not the only ones, but you and others are selective in who you set out to blame, when they should all be condemned no matter what group they belong to.

[ludwig]

// It must be so confusing for the Far Right...they hate both Jews and Muslims. //

On the contrary, it's very easy - hate everyone that isn't exactly like you.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// This may be where we differ - I don’t want an equilateral, balanced hatred of anyone. ///

/// I want to discover why the Far Right hate Jews. ///

Well thanks, you have made that perfectly obviously, ignore all the other Jew haters, let's just focus on the Far-Right.