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webbo3 | 17:08 Sun 06th May 2018 | News
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Just what is going on in London and what is the answer.?

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Gang wars.Needs the police to go in hard and wipe out the gangs.
a third child 14 years old has been shot dead playing football in London today too.... :0(
Just what is going on in London and what is the answer.?




If any on AB can answer that they are wasting their talents by dossing about posting on here.
I mean answer it with an actual solution.

Some parents should be prevented from breeding and bringing/dragging up children. Some of the children involved in these incidents were doomed from the start.

This is not the solution, but it might help a tiddly little bit.
A father in the mix would be good - a lot of these kids have no strong male models to look up to so they look towards gang leaders instead.
Nice one wolf63,

Blame the victims for being shot without any knowledge of the actual crimes.

// what is the answer ? //

It may just be a coincidence, but things appear to have got a lot worse since the Tories reduced the Police by 10,000 officers. Perhaps putting a few more coppers on the streets might act as a deterrant.

I think so much comes down to where they live. It's not the parents fault they live in a bad area. You can bring them up the best way possible but you won't be able to 100% guarantee they won't join a gang.

It's worse if they are being brought up by a single mother. My boys are bigger and stronger than me. Luckily though they have more than one father figure in their lives.
Gromit, I meant the bad
The problem with the gang culture is that it appeals massively to children who have no sense of belonging, and no sense of self-respect, or respect for others.

Gang culture provides them with crystal-clear boundaries, a sense of a structured society, a hierarchy they can both obey and aspire to, and usually, more money than their wildest dreams.

The answer is simple in identification, difficult, and long-term in implementation.

The government needs to stop its ludicrous obsession with the notion that every child wants / needs / is suitable for a university education, and start ploughing millions and millions and then more millions of pounds into nursery and primary education.

Stop with the notion that small children don't matter - they are the foundation of the new society.

Stop employing young girls on minimum wage who think they quite like children, and get well paid professional motivated trained staff in to give children those values that they lack, or simply don't see.

The problem is, it's going to take about ten years for the fruits of such policy to reap rewards, and all governments are based on short-termism, and instant results. No politician wants to put policies in place that will benefit other politicians further up the line - they look four years ahead, and no further.

The bottom line - nursery children are useless to politicians, they don't vote - students and graduates do.

That's the answer - but don;t hold your breath for its realisation.

Gromit, 19.32 .Think the £ 645.000 spent on Bercow, could be better spent on extra
Police Officers.
A curb on the dicking about with targets and taskforces, calling the police a service and working hard with partner agencies approach would be a start.
Trotting out senior drones to mouth almost identical platitudes to unquestioning 'journalists' after each incident is clearly hopeless makework for ineffectual graduate wasters.
Break some heads, hang some murderers. Do something!
Going forward.
^ You can't blame the police. It's a social issue. When did you ever hear about Chinese or Jewish people shooting each other in London?
THERE SEEMS TO BEING SHOOTING ALL OVER, THE UNTIED STATES AND OVER SEA. THIS IS BECOMING A SERIOUS PROBLEM.PEOPLE JUST DON'T CARE ABOUT WHO THEY HURT, OR WORSE. WE CANNOT TAKE OUR GUNS AWAY,IT WOULD LEAVE US DEFENSELESS.PEOPLE NEED TO REPORT THINGS WHEN THEY SEE IT, AND HELP THE ONES WHO NEED HELP.
Take your caps lock off for goodness sake.
I knew someone would bring up the "10,000" police numbers but my question to you Gromit is how do yo uthink an increase in Police will stop this? Those 10,000 police have not been taken out of just a small part of London so putting them back into the countrywide force would simply be like peeing in the ocean.

Danny has it right, let the Police go in hard and find some judges with a backbone who will incarcerate the offending ringleaders for many years. Zero tolerance and bring back stop and search.

Then, alongside this, look at the cause and why it does seem to happen in certain areas and groups. It needs to be done in an open fashion ignoring any finding offence or not liking the answers and certainly non-PC. Only then can we start to address it.
Gromit
/// Perhaps putting a few more coppers on the streets might act as a deterrant. ///

It is no good putting more police on the streets unless they take deliberate action i.e. coming down hard on groups of youths gathering and systemic stop and searches.

But their are some on here who are against such direct action in case it upsets the 'communities' why even the mother of one of these victims blamed the police instead of her own community, are there any calls amongst the black community for the gangland killers to be routed out and removed from our streets?
// A 13-year-old boy shot in north-west London was an innocent bystander, according to police. //

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