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murraymints | 15:02 Sat 28th Apr 2018 | News
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just heard on radio..ASDA and Sainsburys are in talks to merge in a bid to beat the German competition... hmmmmmm......don't like the sound of that myself...
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Asda is grim! Cheap and nasty as opposed to cheap and (mainly) excellent at Aldi and Lidl.
09:28 Sun 29th Apr 2018
Wow, chalk & cheese on offer.

No harm in appealing to a wider part of the market, but I don't see how a merger would help. The issues each have will still need to be solved separately. There may be some savings to be made in purchasing/supply, which could help, but make the stores too similar and one loses the distinctiveness and no longer appeals to the existing customer bases.

(Best thing Sainsbury's can do is replace the Marketing department and devise some better campaigns/adverts. Asda is more or less stuck with it's image but needs to be cheaper I'd guess, to be more successful in the lowest cost sector.)
it's said that they'll stay as separate entities, but together they'll have a bigger market share than Tesco.
A couple of years ago, Aldi audaciously opened a new branch right across the road from my local Tesco, and I've been drawn in for certain things on an increasingly regular basis, as, it seems, so have many others, as it's always busy. I think Sainsbury's has been struggling for some time and this is a way to fight back - economies of scale, and all that.
Squeaky bum time for the middle management in each camp.
I quite like Sainsburys. It helps keep the riff-raff out of Waitrose :-)
My son works for Sainsbury's and doesn't like the thought of them merging with Asda/WalMart! We'll have to wait and see I suppose....
What does the monopolies commission have to say on it? Surely two of the biggest supermarket chains under one ownership is a bit dodgy?
I think it'll go through, but with strings, cassa.
Makes them comparable to Tesco.
There are still other rivals so I'd doubt there'd be too much fuss.
Son works for Asda. Worrying.
A new Aldi store near me has killed the local Morrison's stone dead. It will be lucky to survive till Xmas.
As has been pointed out on several websites offering analysis of the potential merger (including that of the BBC), the Competition Commission seems well-acquainted with the problems currently facing the food marketing sector and may well approve the merger (possibly with Asda and/or Sainsburys disposing of stores in areas where there's no other competition).

That analysis seems to be largely based upon the Competition Commission's decision to approve Tesco's takeover of Booker, meaning that Tesco now largely controls the supply of groceries (etc) to independent retailers (such as 'corner shops' and other independent 'convenience stores').

As I see it, if Sainsbury's/Asda can reduce their distribution costs they can either
(a) maintain their current prices in their stores (but make bigger profits from them) ; or
(b) more likely, lower their prices to try to get their missing customers back.

Method (a) won't harm the interests of customers. Method (b) is in the interests of customers. So I can't see that customers can lose out through the proposed merger.
I spent twenty years of my life writing software analysing the dynamics of the UK grocery industry (that's FMCG for those who like acronyms), and (courtesy of poisoned and recently departed dwarf Sir Martin Sorrell) spent another three years,
if only part-time, after retirement back at work looking at the impact the discount stores were having on the traditional retail giants and the effectiveness of the latters' strategies in response to that challenge.

Most of those strategies were about stealing market share from each other in a shrinking market rather than defending the market from the new Germanic invaders. (Is there a "been there - done that" feel about this?)

I spent twenty years of my life writing software analysing the dynamics of the UK grocery industry (that's FMCG for those who like acronyms), and (courtesy of poisoned and recently departed dwarf Sir Martin Sorrell) spent another three years,
if only part-time, after retirement looking at the impact the discount stores were having on the traditional retail giants and the effectiveness of their strategies in response to that challenge.

The strategies were basically about stealing market share from each other in a shrinking market rather than defending the market from the new Germanic invaders. (Is there a "been there - done that" feel about this?)

So the proposed Asda/JS merger makes some kind of sense if they're uniting against a common enemy. However, they're currently beaten on price, and it's not obvious to me how the merger overcom that that disadvantage.


PS: I do understand that there better ways of spending thirty odd years of your life than working in the market research industry.

I see I'm repeating myself. I have been warned before about this particular symptom of old age: "You've made your point, VE, don't repeat yourself - it's boring.".

I apologise once to all those bored the second time, and twice to all those bored the first.
I hope not!
The difference between the two is very noticeable when you go in. I hardly use either of them. Asda always seems compacted and untidy to me whereas Sainsburys is the opposite. But we shop mainly at Tesco, so it doesn't affect us. No it doesn't!!
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I am a fan of the Germans and what I can't get in ALDI , which isn't much, I get in TESCO ....so it doesn't really affect me greatly it does kind of strike me as the desperate action of sinking ships... ought to have done more sooner and been more competitive ..
I have no experience of Asda as there isn't one near me. All we have is Morrison's and Sainsbury's but Morrison's is a dead duck since a new branch of Aldi opened just up the road. I think it will close before Xmas.
The move is said to be in preparation for Amazon taking over the marketplace with fresh food deliveries, which they’ve already started.
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really Zac ? will they leave it under car/hedge/in recycling bin if you're not home ? lol ... don't think I'd ever order food from Amazon !

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