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Should This Landlord Remove His Gollies?

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anotheoldgit | 11:27 Tue 13th Feb 2018 | News
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5384909/My-golliwogs-say-insists-pub-landlord.html

Or is there more to this story since he also dares to fly the Union Flag outside his pub?

One reader stated "I am sure he is a member of both UKIP and Britain First".

But then this reader identifies himself as a French PhD Scholar, from Paris, France, so who knows?

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//But to get it correct, Sp isn't expected to know his Nephews views on everything but as a close fellow black person one would expect him to know his views on racial matters.//

Really ? - Why ?
What's racial matters ?
sp 1814- Minstrels- yes! Cadbury's could be sued for the "chocolate connotation"?
are you feeling ok?
Re the main topic, it matters not a jot to me whether this Landlord wishes to make a stand re his Gollies.

I think his bar back looks very cluttered and messy full stop.

I had a Golly as a child ( wasn't my favourite, got slung in the toy box with lots of other toys).

They don't offend me, but I think they've had their day in the limelight - though doubtless they'll continue to create stories like this for some time to come.
I have no real feelings either way, but one thing I do think. While people continue to link them in the way they are doing here then it will just perpetuate the problem. Perhaps just best to leave them as historic dolls and move on?

Yes, I had one. Also had the badges from the jam too, lots of them. At the time I didnt really get a link to black people, clearly the innocence of youth.

SP, a valid point on whether Black people had them, however in those times in alot of the country it was rare to see a person of any colour so I guess not many had black friends either. We did have two in our school but it was a private one and they were boarders from somewhere wealthy abroad. I dont recall any animosity to them (and no they were not called strangely brown) it was not that kind of public school.
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sp1814

/// In fact, mamy’s comment makes a lot of sense here. It would be surprising that anyone young person would know what an antimacassar is, as they’ve fallen out of use too. ///

mamy’s comment makes a lot of sense here ???????

You have got to be joking.

How can both of you compare an antimacassar which I doubt most of mature adults wouldn't know what one was with a doll that has so much publicity over the years, a doll that I grant most children have seen never mind 25 year olds?
It was not a direct comparison between the two items, I think that was patently clear.

It made a point which some understood.

Antimacassars are still sold and I have been in houses not long ago that had them.
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Mamyalynne

/// I should imagine Sp and his Nephew has more pressing matters to discuss ///

Not so apparently since it was sp who went out of his way to get in touch with his nephew on this very subject.

/// and it wasn't sarcastic - it made a point. ///

Well you would say that wouldn't you?

Also it made no point at all.
I'm struggling here. I didnt know what a Antimacassar was so looked it up:

noun
plural noun: antimacassars
a piece of cloth put over the back of a chair to protect it from grease and dirt or as an ornament.

I am still non the wiser as to the connection, can someone help me out please?
AOG - // Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, even if certain ones find it funny. //

Some match their wit to their company!!!

LOL!
OK, so my point wasn't clear to some.

AOG seemed to suggest that Sp should already have known his nephew's opinion of an old fashioned toy, I wondered if that also included other old fashioned items too.

With the best will in the world we can't know everything that our younger relatives do or don't know.


Some understood, some didn't.



I'll let the serious debate continue, apologies for the drivel.
Ah, got you Mammy. Thanks!
YMB - // I'm struggling here. I didnt know what a Antimacassar was so looked it up:

noun
plural noun: antimacassars
a piece of cloth put over the back of a chair to protect it from grease and dirt or as an ornament.

I am still non the wiser as to the connection, can someone help me out please? //

Macassar was a type of hair oil worn by Edwardian and Victorian gentlemen to make their hair shine. It left greasy deposits on the backs of armchairs, so people put detachable cloths called antimacassars on the backs of chairs to catch the oil, and they could then be washed, protecting the chair itself.

They are now an outdated accessory - and the point about raising them here is that they are consigned to social history in the same way as golliwogs.

bad sight day
I thought the title read:
should this landlord remove his goolies?
and I thought erm only if he has genial problems

his view on anti macassars?
he would doubtless say that the young bloods of 150 y ago thought that bear grease combatted baldness. My father commented ( a bit like Checkhov) if that were true no one would be bald. And it got over the chairs. I mean we werent allowed to cry in the Front Room - snot all over the plush furniture.
But now bears are a protected species - there is much less bear grease and so .... the antimaccassars as useful as they are need to washed much less often.

evey night I look at my bed board and think - jesus I should have bought one of those antimacassar things twenty years ago
jesus people had to look it up?
the Victorian Era obviously lasted longer in the south west than elsewhere
He should remove his bracelet that's for sure.
I haven't read all the answers, but no he shouldn't remove them. All this fuss exacerbates racism - and apart from that I think gollies are jolly.
oh and to really show my age....I knew about this without looking it up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macassar_oil

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