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mikey4444 | 09:26 Sun 15th Oct 2017 | News
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Its been a while since we discussed Polls on here, so I thought I would pst the latest EC :::::

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//Its been a while since we discussed Polls on here//

That's because they have proved to be pretty useless.
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Yes...you may be right YMB. But why does this one show the Tories struggling to keep up, so soon after their "victory" in June ?
Morning mikey....nice to see the Electoral Calculus back on AB.
Good news for Labour.
In simple terms...Labour on the up and the Tories on the drop at this time in our Political era.
Seems reasonable to me.
This predicts the potential outcome of an election ... when?
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Morning Sqad !

Much as I would like to think that this is entirely due to Labour's increased popularity, I have a funny feeling that its also down to Mrs May's chaotic regime and its increasingly desperate attempts at BREXIT.

But it has to be said that Labour, under Corbyn, is not seen as totally out-of-the-question, in the way that the Tory-owned media have been telling people it is for years.

I have just heard him being interviewed on Radio 4 and he didn't put a foot wrong. Bringing water back into public ownership....what's not to like ?
Spending more money they haven't got then?
//I have just heard him [Corbyn] being interviewed on Radio 4 and he didn't put a foot wrong. //

But is he telling you the truth? Sure? Only a fool believes all he's told.
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Kathy....the hiving off, of water into foreign owned hands never made any sense.

Privatising our utilities was supposed to give us more choice. But I have no more choice in where my water comes from now, that I did 30 years ago. It still comes in the same pipes, from the same reservoir that it always has.

Welsh Water is currently a not-for-profit organisation, after it chaotic times after the hiving-off in 1991, so why not bring it back into full public ownership ?
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Kathyan.....no money would be needed, to bring water back into public ownership.
Mikey, //.....no money would be needed, to bring water back into public ownership. //

How so?
Interesting piece here from one of your old favs
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/09/27/voting-intention-conservatives-39-labour-43-22-24-/


Labour ahead but
♫OH Jeremy Corrrrbin♫
I heard the end bit on radio 4 this morning and someone who sounded very knowledgeable said that Labour were still not above Cons in polls. How can that be then?
Lol. I'd imagine Kim Jung seldom 'puts a foot wrong' on Pyongyang Radio.
Mikey, with regard to your claim that //no money would be needed, to bring water back into public ownership//

...this from your favourite newspaper, the Guardian.

// Nationalising 32 water companies in England and Wales will also be costly. The water regulator, Ofwat, puts the capital value of the industry at £69bn.//

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/20/labour-renationalisation-rail-water-energy-cost-benefits
"This predicts the potential outcome of an election ... when?"

Tomorrow, if it were to be held then (which it won't).

"...someone who sounded very knowledgeable said that Labour were still not above Cons in polls. How can that be then?"

I haven't heard that interview but either they were referring to a recent ICM poll that had Labour and the Tories tied, or perhaps they meant that a roughly 2% average lead is statistically insignificant really.

I think the Tories would probably do very badly if there were an early election, because almost necessarily the circumstances for such an election would reflect a governing party in total disarray, and how could the electorate as a whole continue to vote for them? But if the election is in 2022 then it would depend on how well things went in the early post-Brexit UK, and who knows how that will turn out?
//"This predicts the potential outcome of an election ... when?"

Tomorrow, if it were to be held then (which it won't). //

... which makes the whole thing a nonsense.
No, not really, it makes the whole thing a "model".
A model of something that isn't going to happen. I wonder how much time is wasted on stuff that is clearly a complete waste of time?
The time you enjoy wasting isn't wasted time.
Unkind to play games that get Mikey's hopes up for nothing, though.

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