Irrelevant Curriculum?

[mushroom25]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4827676/Jeremy-Corbyn-claims-no-one-interested-core-subjects.html

mr corbyn dismisses 3 of today’s core school subjects as “victorian” and in which it's claimed there’s no longer any interest; but does not go on to say what he’d replace them with.

What, in the opinion of AB, are subjects most relevant to today’s students worthy of replacing those subjects that now stand discredited?

[jim360]

Isn't this a misquote? Looks like he said, as the Mail says further down, "Nobody here is only interested in [English, Maths and Science]."

Makes a massive difference when you include that, does it not?

[gness]

Does the word...only...in what he says change your OP a little?...x

[gness]

Hello, Jim.....all the difference in the world..... :-)

[THECORBYLOON]

What he said was,  'Don't believe in Michael Gove Victorian theory of education that only English, Maths and Science matter. Nobody here is only interested in those three subjects, so why should our children be?' That's different from the Mail's headline.

[jim360]

Perhaps if the Mail were more interested in English it would have picked up on that :P

[THECORBYLOON]

Sorry, there were no answers when I started reading the link.

[Peter Pedant]

hi Mushie nice to see you posting

This is far more difficult than Corbo ( a non scientist )thinks
Let me start - do you think anthropotobly should be taught in schools ? My father got it in his third year at uni.

when I was going a management course - one of the porters passed and said - Maslow's hierarchy - we did that at O level.....

whereas - Einstein is at least a hundred years old
but no one would dream of teaching the derivation of his equations at school

and the unification of electricity and magnetism which seemed to predict electromagnetic radiation (1876 James Clerk Maxwell) is far too difficult for kids.

Newton derived the shell theorems 1680 - inside a shell - the electric, magnetic and gravitational fields are zero ( and any other law which is inverse square) - I found that a hell of a handful at school.....

so one doesnt do Elizabthan History because it was all such a long time ago ....

[Peter Pedant]

Jim all the theoretical physics you prod around with during the day- you wouldnt dream of trying to teach a school kid would you ?

[tamborine]

Cant see 'only'? JC shows himself as a fool, again!

".....Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has claimed people are not interested in core school subjects such as English ,Maths and Science, branding them as 'Michael Gove's Victorian theory of education'...."

[jim360]

Then look further down the article, Tambo.

[gness]

Then read again, Tambo....what Corby has posted is what JC said...x

[jim360]

I couldn't possibly say whether or not I'd teach, PP. Not at Primary School level, at least. Maybe at a decent High School somewhere.

[tamborine]

Iphone seems to open to Edinburgh fringe vid....& I aint opening that!

[jim360]

Well, like gness says, Corby has already copied the relevant paragraph verbatim. So read his post.

The Mail covered its back against allegations of misquoting, it just chose to omit the key word from its headline for obvious reasons (so that people can get angry over what Corbyn didn't actually say).

[Togo]

Perhaps Jezza will put Diane Abbott in charge of the Maths curriculum and Tom Watson in charge of English with John Prescott setting the oral tests.

[sunny-dave]

Corbyn actually said (even the Daily Fail admits) :

"During his talk, Corbyn said: 'Don't believe in Michael Gove Victorian theory of education that only English, Maths and Science matter. Nobody here is only interested in those three subjects, so why should our children be?' "

Note the repeated, crucial, word "only" which is conveniently ignored earlier in the DM hatchet job.

[Togo]

Then you see the photo shoot opportunity with the bagpipes and think................who need two bags of wind?

[mushroom25]

the absence or not of the word "only" isn't really relevant to the question - i'm not spitting feathers or anything else in ire at what Mr Corbyn may or may not have been alleged to have said - I'm interested in what you, the AB-ers, think is relevant to the education of today's students.

[gness]

The word...only....is very, very important...... :-)

You posted that JC dismisses 3 of today's core school subjects....he didn't did he?
Your last post is not at all what you posted in your OP......you wanted to know what subjects would we replace English, Maths and Science with now that JC has discredited those subjects........he didn't, did he?......x

[jim360]

So, just to be clear, the entire premise of your question happens to be wrong but that's not actually important? Because once it's established that English, Maths and Science are not the *only* subjects that are important, which is unarguable, then it follows that you don't need to replace them with anything, only ensure that other subjects are given attention and credit too. Similarly, the three subjects in question aren't being discredited, only the approach to teaching them and the emphasis placed on them to the expense of all else. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a teacher that doesn't sympathise with that at least in part.

As it happens, when I clicked on the article, I only saw the Mail's headline, assumed it was accurate (because, of course, why would you print such an outrageously obvious error?) and was all prepared to get angry at Corbyn. Then I read the article and got angry at the Mail instead.