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I'm one of the biggest fans the BBC could have - it's a beacon of excellence in an otherwise pretty dire TV world. But .... But ... I agree entirely that the post referendum reporting has been relentlessly : "you've all made a big mistake and should have listened to nanny - now we're all of to hell in a handcart because you were so foolish" - and that goes for a lot of...
12:30 Tue 21st Mar 2017
albeeb - that would be the Baghdadi Broadcasting Corporation wouldnt it ?
as soon as 3T goes to bed ( another thread ) possing himself with laughter ( eek ! ) someone takes his place with impossibly hard sobriquets
The beeb arent trying to turn back the determination of the majority of voters to commit economic suicide are they ?
they are just recording or documenting it without an awful lot of enthusiasm ....
as soon as 3T goes to bed ( another thread ) possing himself with laughter ( eek ! ) someone takes his place with impossibly hard sobriquets
The beeb arent trying to turn back the determination of the majority of voters to commit economic suicide are they ?
they are just recording or documenting it without an awful lot of enthusiasm ....
There isn't really any evidence in their letter, it is just their feeling. And it is wrong.
The BBC is not the media. The press is predominantly right wing, Times, Telegraph, Sun, Mail and Express. Combined they are much more influential than the BBC.
Just BBC bashing by the usual bonkers Tories, with the batty Kate Hoey thrown in.
The BBC is not the media. The press is predominantly right wing, Times, Telegraph, Sun, Mail and Express. Combined they are much more influential than the BBC.
Just BBC bashing by the usual bonkers Tories, with the batty Kate Hoey thrown in.
Gromit
/// Just BBC bashing by the usual bonkers Tories, with the batty Kate Hoey thrown in. ///
In true Left fashion, out come the insults.
Those Newspapers may be classed Right Wing, but they are not afraid of criticising the Tories when the need arises, unlike those Left Wing journals, who fall shy when it comes to any criticism of Labour.
/// Just BBC bashing by the usual bonkers Tories, with the batty Kate Hoey thrown in. ///
In true Left fashion, out come the insults.
Those Newspapers may be classed Right Wing, but they are not afraid of criticising the Tories when the need arises, unlike those Left Wing journals, who fall shy when it comes to any criticism of Labour.
What nonsense Gromit.
You and your comrades only support the Biased Broadcasting Corp because it spouts your left wing drivel with impunity and at the expense of all tax payers.
The sooner it is taken out of the public purse the better, lets see how far it would get with the few lefty liberal supporters paying for it.
You and your comrades only support the Biased Broadcasting Corp because it spouts your left wing drivel with impunity and at the expense of all tax payers.
The sooner it is taken out of the public purse the better, lets see how far it would get with the few lefty liberal supporters paying for it.
If the BBC went to the advertising/subsciption model of financing, it would kill SKY and ITV at a stroke.
And it would be free from interferring Governments trying to make it tow the ruling party's line.
A financially independent BBC would be a very dangerous and powerful beast, which is why only the barmiest politicians are calling for that.
Most just want to snipe but not change it.
And it would be free from interferring Governments trying to make it tow the ruling party's line.
A financially independent BBC would be a very dangerous and powerful beast, which is why only the barmiest politicians are calling for that.
Most just want to snipe but not change it.
One can only wonder what goes on in the 'brain' of someone who watches an aBBC programme and thinks 'mmm, that seemed a well balanced, fair summary to me'.
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About time they had their collars felt. Some of us on the "bank" have been highlighting the false reporting and bias for months and months, whilst the usual suspects scweem paranoia or worse. Make the self serving lizards pay their own way. The sooner they have to self finance the sooner they will have to clean up their act.
About time they had their collars felt. Some of us on the "bank" have been highlighting the false reporting and bias for months and months, whilst the usual suspects scweem paranoia or worse. Make the self serving lizards pay their own way. The sooner they have to self finance the sooner they will have to clean up their act.
//One can only wonder what goes on in the 'brain' of someone who watches an aBBC programme and thinks 'mmm, that seemed a well balanced, fair summary to me'.//
Nothing much Sam, they are wired like one of those perpetual loop tapes, destined to keep repeating and regurgitating the same mantra in perpetuity, like a giant echo chamber.
Nothing much Sam, they are wired like one of those perpetual loop tapes, destined to keep repeating and regurgitating the same mantra in perpetuity, like a giant echo chamber.
I'm one of the biggest fans the BBC could have - it's a beacon of excellence in an otherwise pretty dire TV world.
But .... But ... I agree entirely that the post referendum reporting has been relentlessly :
"you've all made a big mistake and should have listened to nanny - now we're all of to hell in a handcart because you were so foolish"
- and that goes for a lot of the features/comedy output too.
I think that (rather than being solely a BBC problem), it's merely holding a mirror up to what all the producers and reporters see around them 24/7 in the metrocentric Westminster bubble.
Which doesn't make it right, but does rather do away with the conspiracy theory aspects.
But .... But ... I agree entirely that the post referendum reporting has been relentlessly :
"you've all made a big mistake and should have listened to nanny - now we're all of to hell in a handcart because you were so foolish"
- and that goes for a lot of the features/comedy output too.
I think that (rather than being solely a BBC problem), it's merely holding a mirror up to what all the producers and reporters see around them 24/7 in the metrocentric Westminster bubble.
Which doesn't make it right, but does rather do away with the conspiracy theory aspects.
Not sure what you've been watching Dave but it isn't my experience. Quite the opposite in fact. As I have said time and time again, Question Time for example is particular always seems to be well stocked with Brexitters (in the referendum campaign indeed the panel always seemed split 3-2 in favour of Leave whenever I watched).
Comedy etc is different: the BBC like any other channel will put on comedians or performers with no concern about "balance" in that regard. Thankfully, as that would be ridiculous.
Comedy etc is different: the BBC like any other channel will put on comedians or performers with no concern about "balance" in that regard. Thankfully, as that would be ridiculous.
I don't often watch QT, ichkeria - my blood pressure can't take the strain - but it's easy to 'balance' panels and they'd get shot if they didn't.
It's more the tone of the News reports and 'pieces to camera' by the correspondents about the foolhardy risk the country has taken with its future - patronising hardly does it justice.
The relentless doom-saying about the economy is getting pretty grating too - they may turn out to be right, but as of now no-one knows anything for certain and virtually every economic indicator that is 'real' rather than 'projected' has been positive - you'd be hard pushed to know that from the beeb's reports.
It saddens me - I've grown up with the BBC as my trusted news source (and still turn to it first) - I just feel that something is badly awry with the tone of the coverage of this hugely important process.
[ as for topical comedy, HIGNFY is almost unwatchable at the moment - Hislop is a caricature of himself and Merton has lost interest it seems - it should be attacking all targets, not just spending most of its time shooting brexit fish in a barrel ]
It's more the tone of the News reports and 'pieces to camera' by the correspondents about the foolhardy risk the country has taken with its future - patronising hardly does it justice.
The relentless doom-saying about the economy is getting pretty grating too - they may turn out to be right, but as of now no-one knows anything for certain and virtually every economic indicator that is 'real' rather than 'projected' has been positive - you'd be hard pushed to know that from the beeb's reports.
It saddens me - I've grown up with the BBC as my trusted news source (and still turn to it first) - I just feel that something is badly awry with the tone of the coverage of this hugely important process.
[ as for topical comedy, HIGNFY is almost unwatchable at the moment - Hislop is a caricature of himself and Merton has lost interest it seems - it should be attacking all targets, not just spending most of its time shooting brexit fish in a barrel ]
There's no such thing, anywhere, as an unbiased source. It is not possible for the BBC - or any other media, or arguably even any individual who verbally tells you information - to be unbiased. People often mistake intelligent/careful reading of news sources for simply identifying the source's biases and writing the whole thing off as unreliable if those biases are suitably unpalatable.
The difference is in how ethical those outlets are. And as far as I can tell, nobody has provided any substantive evidence that the BBC's reporting is unethical. I get the strong impression that this is the reason BBC critics focus on bias. It's easy to prove because it's impossible to remove: every source available to you is governed by biases, and it's up to you as a reader to make intelligent judgements based on the information you have. But bias is not the thing that actually matters when judging a source's quality.
The difference is in how ethical those outlets are. And as far as I can tell, nobody has provided any substantive evidence that the BBC's reporting is unethical. I get the strong impression that this is the reason BBC critics focus on bias. It's easy to prove because it's impossible to remove: every source available to you is governed by biases, and it's up to you as a reader to make intelligent judgements based on the information you have. But bias is not the thing that actually matters when judging a source's quality.
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