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Gordon Brown Says Holyrood Should Gain Brexit Powers

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emmie | 12:27 Sat 18th Mar 2017 | News
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"One can not be allowed to have one's cake and eat it too." Absolutely, OG. And that is what the ridiculous devolution arrangements are allowing the Scots to do. They have a devolved government with powers which far exceed anything elsewhere in the UK and there is absolutely no justification for it whatsoever. In many respects London has far more right to such...
15:08 Sat 18th Mar 2017
This is just a stealth step towards independence without having another referendum surely?
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don't know, some of it makes sense, but it is Gordon after all. will need to read further on.
Good old Gordon; he gets rolled out each time to make promises he is in no position to keep. Surely he will not be beloved again.
Remember THE VOW !!!
Sorry - that was believed,
he certainly is not beloved
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Hello Rich long time no see,
so you don't think Gordon will add any weight to the arguments that Ms Sturgeons is forwarding.
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not beloved certainly, he isn't wearing well either by the looks of him, he looks a tad ill.
Not doing too well with the powers we have already - and don't use all of them anyway!
I am sick to the back teeth with constant news of the fish lady. I still cannot understand the logic of wishing to break away from the United Kingdom & throw her lot in with the power crazy loony lot in Brussels.
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the question is about Gordon Brown, open out the link and read on..
It's not really, it's about devolution.
Brown promised Scotland a whole raft of new powers in the referendum. They never materialised.
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i know but Gordon is getting his tuppensworth in i suppose.
Well since Firefox thought it "blooming" hilarious to throw away all I had already written I'll have to try to repeat it; although clearly never as well as the first time.

I've not looked at the details but have heard the news article and from that think it is an utterly ridiculous idea. Does he really think that fools anyone ?

This is no third option but simply an attempt to fool folk that it is a compromise. It simply swaps a immediate step to a into one that continues the attrition process of nibbling away the Union whilst pretending to do no such thing. Transferring power from the Union's government to the country tier (well except for England of course who are denied the same).

There is no compromise. Either a country wants to leave in which case they'd best get on with it, or they don't and should stop trying to be both in and out of the Union at the same time, and commit to the Union instead. One can not be allowed to have one's cake and eat it too.

But maybe he was trying his best to ensure there is no doubt the Tories get in again next time. In which case; job done.
... immediate step into one ...
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job done indeed.
we should undevolve in my opinion, look what happens when you let the animals run the zoo.
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i don't want the Union split, i truly believe we are better together.
I'd rather let the scots have their own country if they want it and devolve completely.
"One can not be allowed to have one's cake and eat it too."

Absolutely, OG. And that is what the ridiculous devolution arrangements are allowing the Scots to do. They have a devolved government with powers which far exceed anything elsewhere in the UK and there is absolutely no justification for it whatsoever. In many respects London has far more right to such devolution than Scotland ever has but such a move would be equally ridiculous.

As I said yesterday, if and when a second referendum is countenanced, far from promising more devolved powers (which Cameron and his mates flew up to Edinburgh to pledge on the eve of the first one) the Scots should be left in no doubt that no further devolution will take place. The SNP exists merely to campaign for independence and is making a complete pig's ear of governing Scotland. In my view some aspects of devolution need urgent revision. To promise them more power should they graciously lower themselves to remain in the UK is absolutely preposterous. If they want independence (or, more accurately, alternative dependence) that's a matter for them. Granting them more powers is a matter for the Westminster Parliament and it should be resisted.
"One can not be allowed to have one's cake and eat it too"
Why?
Aren't you meant to eat cake?

Pigs ear up here maybe, but the further south you go the closer you get to the pig bum

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