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ck1 | 19:56 Fri 28th Oct 2016 | News
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Is there any real threat from Putin or is it all just posturing?
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No. threat.

All the current anti Russia propaganda is because the Russians have amost won in Syrian. The West have lost and all they are able to do is whinge. All they are able to do is scaremonger. Talk of World War III, and Putin is Evil is just sour grapes.

In terms of any threat to the UK, that is nil.
divebuddy has threatened me far more than Vlad the Sad has, ck1.....
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of course we have....xxx
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I wonder if Vlad the Bad is saying that tonight?
Take this bit of nonsense...

// Russian aggression in the English Channel is like a return to the days of the Cold War, a defence minister has said as he indicated the UK will spend more on the military in the wake of Brexit.

Mike Penning, the Armed Forces minister, said that Russia was “sending a message” by last week sailing an aircraft carrier and seven additional vessels through the Channel on their way to Syria. //

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/28/russian-aggression-in-channel-like-a-return-to-cold-war-minister/

The Channel are International waters, and Russian ships, Carriers and Frigates have sailed through it many many times. To call it an act of aggression is utterly absurd.
yes, but they were glaring towards the west as they went through.
Gromit - “... All the current anti Russia propaganda is because the Russians have almost won in Syrian. The West have lost and all they are able to do is whinge. All they are able to do is scaremonger. Talk of World War III, and Putin is Evil is just sour grapes...”


Well said.

The vehement anti-Russian rhetoric is so blatantly transparent that I shudder sometimes at the gullibility of certain members of our society.
Ck1 - “Is there any real threat from Putin or is it all just posturing?”


I wouldn't even go so far as to say it's posturing. Certain western media outlets like to call it “posturing” as it suggests a deliberately overt display of force that is meant to 'provoke' its enemies.

In reality, this simply isn't happening. What is happening is that Russia has been unequivocal in its support of President Bashar al-Assad of Syria. They have provided enormous amounts of military support to prevent him from being illegally deposed by violent insurgents (including, but not limited to, ISIL and their supporters) who seem hell-bent on turning Syria into yet another hot-bed of Islamic extremist tribalism.

By contrast, the 'west' have been actively engaged in supporting those who want to illegally depose Assad (ie. the likes of ISIL and other extremists), rather like they did in Libya with Colonel Gaddafi – and we all know what an unmitigated success story that was don't we?

As Gromit has intimated, Russia have shown the 'west' to be largely ineffective in this conflict and now they – along with their allies in the mainstream media – are doing the only thing left available to them by demonising Russia in general and Putin in particular.
if that old bit** hillary gets into power it could be a very real possibility . i was just listening to a very wise m( peter hitchens ) brother of christopher hitchens talk about it and he is of the same view.
No threat as far as I can see, unless you are a poor, besieged Syrian, or a Hospital patient in the area, or a child attending school, as can be seen here :::

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37794362

Yet another atrocity.
Mikey,
You really don't get it do you?

This civil war has dragged on for 6 years because of OUR support for the likes of IS and the other foreign invaders in Syria.
If, as looks likely, the Russians have won, then the war is over. The death toll will end, and Syrians can get their country back.
Gromit...don't be so condescending !

I get it OK. Assad enlisted the help of Putin, because he couldn't murder enough people, quickly enough.

Putin has tried to pretend that he fighting for Syria...what tosh. He is fighting to obtain a warm-water port and refuge in the Med, and that is all he is doing. He will continue to prop up Assad the Butcher until he obtains what he wants.
Hi ck1: good question.
Not sure if you are referring specifically to the passing of a (the) Russian aircraft carrier through the English Channel en route to the E Med. That of itself is/was no threat at all - that's the required route after all - and probably won't be a great deal of use when it reaches its destination either, other than as a 'we are here' gesture.
So yes 'posturing'
Russia economically is a comparatively poor country despite its huge potential in natural resources. It has a GDP the size of Hungary, and roughly 25 times smaller than 'The West' combined.
It is however ruled by a criminal kleptocracy, and President Putin does not have to contend with a sceptical parliament or congress to get his way: rather 500-odd nodding dogs in the state Duma. Added to a complicit media especially TV

That does not mean Russia is not a threat though: it is a very real threat, and that is not just because of the stockpile of tactical nuclear warheads : Putin's biggest weapon is us really: will we really fight back if and when he invades the Baltic States? Who wants a nuclear war after all? And who would pass up all that lovely Russian money in London etc ?
It seems pretty clear that he wants to divide Europe, discredit the US and revert to a world where Russia can be a powerful empire in a world of large spheres of influence. That sort of world ended in a conflagration in 1914, and there's every chance, somewhere down the line, that it would do so again. So yes: Russia may not be about to invade Blighty or bomb us from an aircraft carrier, but long term, as long as we allow ourselves to be intimated by a weak illy, well sleepwalk into a bad situation.
Recognising that Russia is not powerful militarily should be the spur for us to act in our own defence, before it's too late.
// He is fighting TO OBTAIN a warm-water port and refuge in the Med, //

The Russians have been at the Tartus Meditteranean port in Syria for 45 years. Of course they are fighting to not lose it, not to obtain it. You are right that it is important. The main reason the CIA have invested hundreds of millions of dollars in Islamic terrorists in Syria, is to deny access to Tartus for the Russians.

The civil war in Syria would never have started in Syria wothout US encouragement. And the bloody 5 year war would never have happened without the West arming the rebels. But finally, IS and the other extremists are being beaten and pushed out. The war is nearly over (the flotilla is to help with the final push) and Syrians can get their country back from the murderous extremists.
"Syrians can get their country back from the murderous extremists"

Yes, by committing war crimes, like bombing Hospitals and Schools, and using banned chemical weapons Gromit !

Not sure why you are refusing to condemn Assad and Putin here ?
Ick,

// Russia economically is a comparatively poor country despite its huge potential in natural resources. It has a GDP the size of Hungary //

Was that a mistake? Disinformation? Or just a lie?

Russia GDP $1,267,750 millions - World ranking = 12th
Hungary GDP $117,065 millions - World ranking = 58th

A mistake gromit.
I'll leave the rest to you :-)

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