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Delaying Tactics From Uk Gov Re Britext

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crystalgirl | 08:32 Sat 23rd Jul 2016 | News
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Yes I know there is a new government,(mostly anti to opting out) it has been a month since the vote,and we get nothing positive happening just reasons for why not,in the news every article about Europe which we are being drip fed making a lot of the people who signed to opt out are wavering,I think we should make the UK GOV aware that if something positive is not happening we will become the joke of europe (like the boy crying wolf)
What do you think we should do to make sure that the government keeps in mind that the majority of the uk voted to opt out,we have a primeminster we didnt vote in.
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I'm unsure how long to wait is unacceptable, but I think it is fair enough to discuss among our team what our position is, and what we want, and the point we are not prepared to concede further, etc. etc. etc. We have different folk wanting to prioritise different things when the EU membership ends. They can't all be considered vital. We know the main reason to...
09:24 Sat 23rd Jul 2016
Sorry NJ, just to be clear, I don't expect the UK to lose all of its exports to the EU or even most of them -- the point merely is that I don't see how anyone can think that the EU needs us more than we need them to the extent that the EU will bow to any and all demands we make.

It's already disappointing to see the EU described as "our enemies", and such rhetoric is hardly helpful. Whatever the outcome of negotiations may be, we can hope that it's conducted by people with a friendly attitude to the people we are dealing with, rather than a belligerent one.

Yes I quite agree, Jim.

It does nobody any good to suggest that our major trading partners are somehow our enemies. I think feelings run high among some not because of their aversion to the individual nations concerned but because of their dislike of the EU.

Personally (as you probably realise) I believe that Brexit presents a superb opportunity for the UK to break away from a sixty year old model which I believe is long past its sell by date. There is no doubt that problems will arise but with sensible negotiation they can and will be overcome. Business between the UK and the rest of the UK is too important to be derailed by a few politicians and mutually beneficial trade will prevail.

The only aspect that concerns me is that there seems to be a mood that suggests that a “deal” with the EU must be done at all costs. I do not subscribe to this. There were many reasons why people voted to leave. Undoubtedly high on the list was uncontrolled immigration into the UK from the EU. Also near the top would be our massive contribution to the wealth distribution scheme that is the EU budget and subscription to the idea that EU laws are supreme. None of these matters should be for negotiation. Normal countries outside the EU trade perfectly well with it without being subject to those iniquities and the UK should be no different.
Why keep pouring doom and gloom - just accept Brexit and leave things to the negotiators.
Perhaps because some negotiators are suggesting the UK can come to a deal about sacrificing the, about to be reclaimed, sovereignty (plus more besides) in exchange for single market access. It's important that the negotiating team is quite clear that, that would be an unacceptable sell-out; and if they are under the illusion that it is acceptable, then they should resign their place on the team so someone who can actually understands the job can replace them.
... someone who actually understands the job ...
Keep Ithaka always in your mind.
Arriving there is what you’re destined for.
But don’t hurry the journey at all.
Better if it lasts for years,
so you’re old by the time you reach the island,
wealthy with all you’ve gained on the way,
not expecting Ithaka to make you rich.

For 'Ithica' substitute 'Britex'.
Keep Britex always in your mind.
Arriving there is what you’re destined for.
But don’t hurry the journey at all.
Better if it lasts for years,
so you’re old by the time you isolate the island,
wealthy with all you’ve gained on the way,
not expecting Britex to make you rich.

It's better for a tweak.
Isn't that where you stick your bum out and wriggle it ?
What happens in Ithica stays in Ithica.
What you do there, Old_Geezer, is entirely your own business. :-))

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