How Are Labour Going To Cure Their Anti Semitism?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36029862
Especially as their leader is one of the main culprits?

[SlackAlice]

"Especially as their leader is one of the main culprits?"

Links please to prove your statement?

[ToraToraTora]

just google, plenty out there: eg: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11879662/Why-Jeremy-Corbyns-rise-makes-British-Jews-afraid.html

[Peter Pedant]

yeah come on slack alice
this is 3T - world !

he doesnt have to ( and usually doesnt ) back up his statements with fiddly things like evidence

[anotheoldgit]

Peter Pedant

I think you will find, he already has.

[KARL]

I do not know the details of the history behind this particular allegation. However, there is a trap lurking which, unless avoided, greatly confuses the issue. Many/most Israelis and their supporters encourage the equating of critical questioning of any of the policies and actions of the Israeli government and military with anti-semitism. By that definition there are proud Israelis (the internal opposition) which are anti-semitic. To compare, those who are against the UK having nuclear weapons are not therefore by definition anti-British.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/156533/jeremy-corbyn-showing-contempt-towards-jews-says-major-labour-donor

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3532042/Ignorant-Godless-Hateful-Corbyn-s-contempt-Jews-disgrace-withering-attack-Labour-leader-donor-backed-party-400-000-2015-Election.html

[ToraToraTora]

plenty out there AOG, pity those above have buried their heads in the sand.

[jno]

this all seems to be about anti-Zionism rather than anti-Semitism. There is a difference, though Zionists like to claim otherwise.

It may well affect Jewish donations to the Labour party, but that's another matter.

[SlackAlice]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35865500

[ToraToraTora]

so wanting Israel wiped off the map is not anti Semitic then jno? right oh! Lefties like gromit on here, and most of the Labour party are always playing semantics like this but really, if wanting the jewish homeland gone isn't anti semitic tell me what is.

[ToraToraTora]

yes alice and Foxes don't eat chickens! PMSL!

[jno]

Jews existed for centuries without Israel; you can be pro-Jewish without thinking they're entitled to land because God told them they could have it. (How would you feel if God told me I could have your house?)

[Khandro]

Corbyn is a fan of Hamas, which places him squarely as an enemy of Israel;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/12035511/Jeremy-Corbyn-praised-magnificent-pro-Hamas-rally.html

[bazwillrun]

"he doesnt have to ( and usually doesnt ) back up his statements with fiddly things like evidence "

whats wrong with people doing their own searches,hardly difficult is it ?

at least he makes sense, whereas im sure you must be on some sort of mind tampering meds, theres no other explanation for the alice in wonderland gibberish you post 99.999% of the time

[ToraToraTora]

Is anyone prepared to have a go at the actual question?

[bazwillrun]

They wont cure it as it goes against their Pro Palestine leftie dogma...theyll just try and disguise/hide it

[ToraToraTora]

yes baz that does appear to be the tactic currently.

[mikey4444]

TTT...I will have a go if you like !

If there is indeed anti-semitism in the Labour Party, and it could be termed "institutional" then I would abhor that, as I would if it occurred in any other walk of life. I don't know enough about this subject to say for sure that it is going on though.

But we must be careful not to confuse support of the Palestinians, with anti-semitism. If its anything, than it looks likes anti-Zionism, which is the same thing at all.

[naomi24]

Mikey, //But we must be careful not to confuse support of the Palestinians, with anti-semitism. If its anything, than it looks likes anti-Zionism, which is the same thing at all.//

I’m flabbergasted! I agree with you!!

However, having said that, whereas morally there is most certainly a case for supporting the Palestinian cause, in the current climate there is no justification for supporting the Palestinians because that is not a sensible thing to do. Therefore it seems to me that those members of the Labour party who continue to cling to their idealistic notions are not living in the real world. Israel is established. It isn’t going anywhere.

[mushroom25]

//which is(n't) the same thing at all. //

that might depend on how far that "support" for the palestinians - and Hamas - extends. if it goes so far as to support Hamas policy of wiping israel (and presumably its people) from the map then it IS the same thing. murder is murder, regardless of in whose name it is committed.