And On It Goes...

[bazwillrun]

more kow towing and bending over to suit muslims

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/12084785/Exams-to-be-taken-earlier-in-the-day-to-fit-around-Ramadan-exam-boards-say.html

why not just give them the country...oh, hold on ! ...

[VHG]

We should not be encouraging Ramadan in this country.

Encouraging people to not drink or eat between sunrise and sunset is unhealthy and plain stupid.

It could be considered a form of cruelty and should be banned.

[fbg40]

Agree totally with both of these posts.
FBG40

[andy-hughes]

bazwillrun - //One recent estimate suggested that British Muslims give over £100 million to international aid charities alone during Ramadan. //

Catch Christians doing that at Christmas!

[andy-hughes]

VHG - //We should not be encouraging Ramadan in this country. //

I don't think it needs to be 'encouraged' - it is only partaken by Muslims, and it is part of their faith, which they accept.

//Encouraging people to not drink or eat between sunrise and sunset is unhealthy and plain stupid. //

Why? Plenty of people can go without food during that time with no ill effects, and there are exemptions for those for whom it is considered not suitable.

//It could be considered a form of cruelty and should be banned//

It could - but it's not, and banning religious practices simply because you don't happen to agree with them is somewhat intolerant.

[Baldric]

And that makes it all ok, does it?

[andy-hughes]

Baldric - //And that makes it all ok, does it? //

Bit of a sweeping statement there - not sure if it is aimed at me personally - ?

I think it is valid to allow consideration for fasting in Ramadan, because it can affect the ability of some students to perform at their best in exams. I don't think people should be disadvantaged because of their religious practices.

[andy-hughes]

PiedPiper15 - //Ridiculous. Do their brains not work as well when they are hungry. //

No, but that is not because they are Muslims, that applies to all humanity.

[Baldric]

///Bit of a sweeping statement there - not sure if it is aimed at me personally - ? ///

Er, no, it's not all about you!

[andy-hughes]

Baldric - /////Bit of a sweeping statement there - not sure if it is aimed at me personally - ? ///

Er, no, it's not all about you! //

I don't think it is - don't get out of your pram!

If you don't indicate to whom you are directing a post, a simple query is in order - and that was what I posted.

Keep calm and carry on ....

[andy-hughes]

Pied Piper - //One more nail in the coffin. //

That's a little cryptic - do you mean the thread / the country / something else?

[andy-hughes]

PP - //The coffin of the British way of life.

Not long ago a non denominational school was forced to allow muslim prayer breaks. //

Thanks for clarifying.

[Mamyalynne]

I would far prefer that these young students had some leeway during the Ramadan time when it coincides with important exams, but as an alternative moving the exams a little earlier is a fair compromise .

[Baldric]

AH, at your convenience you may like to try going a day without being patronising, who knows, you may enjoy it?
But then again.....

[andy-hughes]

Baldric - //AH, at your convenience you may like to try going a day without being patronising, who knows, you may enjoy it?
But then again..... //

Can it coincide with your day of not being hyper-sensitive and chippy?

LOL!

[SlackAlice]

I'm not sure why exam times need to be altered to cater for different religions.

In the case for Muslims observing Ramadan then they should get up to date with the real world and current needs. Muslims should 'allow' an exception for fasting for those on the days of exams. They already allow some exceptions.

"One recent estimate suggested that British Muslims give over £100 million to international aid charities alone during Ramadan." The operative word here is 'suggested', which could mean either they do or don't. Too obscure to be meaningful.

Christians like many other religions do support charities in large amounts and not just at Christmas.

[cactusdriver]

No, I don't think exams should be moved to accommodate Ramadan; the Muslim parents should seek exemption for their children from Ramadan fasting rules to accommodate the exams.

[Baldric]

They, the Muslims, have for whatever reason moved to the UK, maybe a few generations back now for a lot of them, and then they expect us to change things to suit their way of life when most of them show little intent to integrate with us.
And what happens?
We are mug enough to do it, no meeting halfway where possible we just give in to them and they are more than happy to accept that.