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Stop Black Actors Leaving The Uk????????
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There are many white actors (or come to that many other people who happen to follow other employment), that have to leave these shores so as to further their careers, so why should black actors be any different?
There are many white actors (or come to that many other people who happen to follow other employment), that have to leave these shores so as to further their careers, so why should black actors be any different?
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/// How long before we are back to black actors only playing the hired help, and rolling their eyes and saying 'Yes massah ...'. ///
I think that that is being far too over dramatic on your part Andy, ever thought of taking to the stage? No one is saying it would revert back to those times, it is the fact now that they are being introduced in many roles just as a token statement, and when they are they never tend to play the bad guy, if it is a reflection of the world we live in (as you put) then perhaps they should indeed play the bad guy occasionally.
Recently they cast a solitary black character into Midsomer Murders, he stuck out like a sore thumb, there was no reason to include him in the cast, except as a token gesture, but it at least narrowed the field of suspects down, because he could be eliminated as the killer from the outset.
The UK TV soaps have embraced ethnic and disabled and homosexual characters for a while now, because it is a reflection of the world we live in.
I perceive that Mr Oyelowo is looking for an extention of that mind-set.
Not a wholesale takeover of all dramas by black actors, but something more of a balance of role allocation within television and film.
/// How long before we are back to black actors only playing the hired help, and rolling their eyes and saying 'Yes massah ...'. ///
I think that that is being far too over dramatic on your part Andy, ever thought of taking to the stage? No one is saying it would revert back to those times, it is the fact now that they are being introduced in many roles just as a token statement, and when they are they never tend to play the bad guy, if it is a reflection of the world we live in (as you put) then perhaps they should indeed play the bad guy occasionally.
Recently they cast a solitary black character into Midsomer Murders, he stuck out like a sore thumb, there was no reason to include him in the cast, except as a token gesture, but it at least narrowed the field of suspects down, because he could be eliminated as the killer from the outset.
The UK TV soaps have embraced ethnic and disabled and homosexual characters for a while now, because it is a reflection of the world we live in.
I perceive that Mr Oyelowo is looking for an extention of that mind-set.
Not a wholesale takeover of all dramas by black actors, but something more of a balance of role allocation within television and film.
AOG - " think that that is being far too over dramatic on your part Andy, ever thought of taking to the stage?"
A fair point well made, I did get a bit carried away there!
"it is the fact now that they are being introduced in many roles just as a token statement, and when they are they never tend to play the bad guy, if it is a reflection of the world we live in (as you put) then perhaps they should indeed play the bad guy occasionally.
Recently they cast a solitary black character into Midsomer Murders, he stuck out like a sore thumb, there was no reason to include him in the cast, except as a token gesture, but it at least narrowed the field of suspects down, because he could be eliminated as the killer from the outset."
I think you are actually agreeing with Mr Oyelowo's point here.
Tokenism is exactly what he is trying to avoid - rather that black actors are used in roles in the same way that white actors are - as principle characters, rather than PC bolt-ons.
I am equally sure that a few black villains would not go amiss - there is far too much right-on tiptoeing around in the face of imagined offence in the world at large. Black people are equally as capable of being criminals, so again that should be appropriately reflected in casting in film and drama.
A fair point well made, I did get a bit carried away there!
"it is the fact now that they are being introduced in many roles just as a token statement, and when they are they never tend to play the bad guy, if it is a reflection of the world we live in (as you put) then perhaps they should indeed play the bad guy occasionally.
Recently they cast a solitary black character into Midsomer Murders, he stuck out like a sore thumb, there was no reason to include him in the cast, except as a token gesture, but it at least narrowed the field of suspects down, because he could be eliminated as the killer from the outset."
I think you are actually agreeing with Mr Oyelowo's point here.
Tokenism is exactly what he is trying to avoid - rather that black actors are used in roles in the same way that white actors are - as principle characters, rather than PC bolt-ons.
I am equally sure that a few black villains would not go amiss - there is far too much right-on tiptoeing around in the face of imagined offence in the world at large. Black people are equally as capable of being criminals, so again that should be appropriately reflected in casting in film and drama.
There was an interesting twist in the opening episode of one of the Prime Suspect series.
DC Jayne Tennyson was interviewing a black suspect who was a thoroughly nasty piece of work.
It turned out that the interview was a training exercise, the black man was an officer on DC Tennyson's team, and they were in a relationship.
Nice deflation of the stereotyping argument there.
DC Jayne Tennyson was interviewing a black suspect who was a thoroughly nasty piece of work.
It turned out that the interview was a training exercise, the black man was an officer on DC Tennyson's team, and they were in a relationship.
Nice deflation of the stereotyping argument there.
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