Should This Type Of Discrimination Have Been Allowed?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2625350/Ethnic-minority-candidates-tipped-rare-police-officer-jobs-available.html

/// An email was sent to 57 non-whites letting them know that 20 posts in the Nottinghamshire force were up for grabs that day. ///

Imagine the outcry if it had been the other way round.

[Old_Geezer]

You have answered you own question. It is isn't to be allowed the other way around then of course it ought not be allowed this way around.

[douglas9401]

A less than satisfactory state of affairs as reported.

"Legal experts said because anyone could theoretically apply for one of the posts through the police website, the force could claim it had not broken the law.

A police spokesman said: ‘Less than half of those who submitted applications were from this supported group.’"

Weasel words if ever they were uttered.

[naomi24]

How patronising! If I were a member of an ethnic minority I'd consider that an insult.

[Baldric]

One Law for us, and another for them, imo.

[DaisyNonna]

The police spokesman should be fired. He or she should have said fewer, not less.

[naomi24]

Daisy, you just can't get the staff. ;o)

[DaisyNonna]

Perhaps they could advertise. Retirement can be boring at times.

[tonyav]

Fancy having a go at being a police woman, Daisy ?.

[Brenden]

These are the actions that causes racism, hatred and wars (civil wars ). I certainly would not want major surgery by a surgeon who got the job by positive discrimination. The bottom line is candidates who obtain a position via "positive discrimination" are mostly inadequate-

[youngmafbog]

No absolutely not. discrimination is discrimination whichever way it is and it has to stop. As pointed out, surely this is patronising to those it is aimed at?

Hardly surprising coming from the lefty Nottingham though is it?

[sp1814]

"The bottom line is candidates who obtain a position via "positive discrimination" are mostly inadequate"

Hmmm...

[Peter Pedant]

Yeah you can invite whomever you like to apply for a job.

and you can discriminate in what ever way you like so long as it is not unlawful

and so for example - if you want an urdu-interpreter you can stipulate suprise surprise that ability to speak Urdu is a requirement

and someone who is white and only speaks Czech can complain, but is likely to be unsuccesful.

[anotheoldgit]

DaisyNonna

/// The police spokesman should be fired. He or she should have said fewer, not less. ///

He or She should have said 'spokesperson' also.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// "The bottom line is candidates who obtain a position via "positive discrimination" are mostly inadequate" ///

/// Hmmm... ///

Got a problem with that sp, that's not the way you gained your position is it?

[anotheoldgit]

Peter Pedant

What as the ability to speak a certain language got to do with discrimination based on the colour of one's skin?

[Peter Pedant]

AOG the point is - discrimination is lawful so long as it isnt against legislation.

here you can advertise jobs however you like....

[sp1814]

AOG

Really tempted to say something rude in response to you, but it won't, because I can tell when I'm being bated.

No, I am lucky enough to be in an industry where very definite skills are required. I left school with a shedload of O and A levels which meant that unlike some of my classmates, I was able to get myself into a well paid job and forge a career in IT (which was the place to be in the late 80s / early 90s).

[naomi24]

sp, serious question. If you thought you’d been offered a job, not on your personal merits, but on grounds of your ethnicity, would you be miffed? I can’t see how anyone with an iota of self-respect would find such discrimination on any basis - age, gender, colour, etc - acceptable.

[sp1814]

naomi24

Thank you for asking that question without any snide inference.

It's really difficult to answer, because I've never applied for a position that I didn't think I could handle.

Every job I've taken has been stretching and there has been an element of fear before starting, but that's how it should be (IMO) - because every job I've had has been a new learning experience.

But back to your question...if (hypothetically) I had been 'given a chance', I wouldn't actually feel insulted. I would do what anyone else would do - show that no matter what got me the job, I would prove that I merited it.

It's a bit like what women have had to do in the past...they've had to be better than their male counterparts, simply because of that 'What did SHE have to do to get the job' attitude that some men carry around with them.

[naomi24]

sp, you’re welcome. If I wasn’t considered for a job on my own merits, I wouldn’t want it because I would object to being patronised.